09-26-2001, 06:12 PM
I have been REALLY GOOD lately - throwing away bottom set, drawing only to the nuts, etc. ... Ray ... Buzz ... Louie ... honest. See if you think I strayed from the true teachings this hand.
3-6 Omaha 8, 9 handed, and this is the loosest game you have ever seen. Of my 8 opponents, 6 or 7 see each flop, with very little pre-flop raising. Then they will stay with as little as a non-nut low-only draw, an inside straight draw for only the high half, or a runner-runner draw for anything. I just want you to get the flavor of this extremely loose game. All 8 of my opponents in this hand fit this pattern; no "fishermen" (to use Cappelletti's term); all fish.
One off the button I pick up
2s 3c 6d Ts.
When it gets to me, all 5 players between the BB and me have called. I call. Button and SB fold, BB checks. 7 players see the flop.
I realize this looks pretty loose for a tight player like me. But with the large implied odds of a lot of players in and no pre-flop raising, I play a 23 in late position just for the low value - basically flop an Ace or get out.
Well, here's the exception. The Ace-less flop comes
3d 4h 5c.
My 26 gives me the 3rd nut low (probably no good) and the 2nd nut high straight (maybe good). I have no draw for high nuts, but I do have a "draw" (if you can call it that) for spiking an Ace to get me a share of the nut low, probably an extra quarter of the pot.
The BB leads, 3 more callers to me, and in last position I call.
This is the heaviest question I have for the panel. Do I belong in this hand?? For better or worse, I make the decision that if the "nuts" doesn't change, I will call single bets to the showdown. By the time I call this single bet, 11 SBs are already in the pot - this pot is pretty big.
Turn is the
Jh.
Basically a blank, but it puts the 2nd heart on board. 6 BB in pot.
Betting the same: BB leads, 3 callers to me, I call. 11 BB in pot.
River card is the 7s, making the board
3d 4h 5c - Jh - 7s.
Notice that I still have the second nut high straight, using my 36 as a "live 6" for the 7 high straight. But it now takes a 68 rather than a 67 to make the nut straight, and anyone holding a 67 has been counterfeited.
Now the BB checks, next bets out (he's a new lead bettor), one fold, and my right-hand opponent raises. I now fold. My reasoning is that chances are excellent that either the new lead bettor or the new raiser has an 86, and that I don't want to pay even 2 BB, let alone the entirely possible four BB, to take a shot at, probably, only half of this pot.
Go ahead and chop me up; I'll post the results later. Look at it this way - if I only posted those hands where I followed the instructions precisely, there wouldn't be any discussion at all.
Dick
3-6 Omaha 8, 9 handed, and this is the loosest game you have ever seen. Of my 8 opponents, 6 or 7 see each flop, with very little pre-flop raising. Then they will stay with as little as a non-nut low-only draw, an inside straight draw for only the high half, or a runner-runner draw for anything. I just want you to get the flavor of this extremely loose game. All 8 of my opponents in this hand fit this pattern; no "fishermen" (to use Cappelletti's term); all fish.
One off the button I pick up
2s 3c 6d Ts.
When it gets to me, all 5 players between the BB and me have called. I call. Button and SB fold, BB checks. 7 players see the flop.
I realize this looks pretty loose for a tight player like me. But with the large implied odds of a lot of players in and no pre-flop raising, I play a 23 in late position just for the low value - basically flop an Ace or get out.
Well, here's the exception. The Ace-less flop comes
3d 4h 5c.
My 26 gives me the 3rd nut low (probably no good) and the 2nd nut high straight (maybe good). I have no draw for high nuts, but I do have a "draw" (if you can call it that) for spiking an Ace to get me a share of the nut low, probably an extra quarter of the pot.
The BB leads, 3 more callers to me, and in last position I call.
This is the heaviest question I have for the panel. Do I belong in this hand?? For better or worse, I make the decision that if the "nuts" doesn't change, I will call single bets to the showdown. By the time I call this single bet, 11 SBs are already in the pot - this pot is pretty big.
Turn is the
Jh.
Basically a blank, but it puts the 2nd heart on board. 6 BB in pot.
Betting the same: BB leads, 3 callers to me, I call. 11 BB in pot.
River card is the 7s, making the board
3d 4h 5c - Jh - 7s.
Notice that I still have the second nut high straight, using my 36 as a "live 6" for the 7 high straight. But it now takes a 68 rather than a 67 to make the nut straight, and anyone holding a 67 has been counterfeited.
Now the BB checks, next bets out (he's a new lead bettor), one fold, and my right-hand opponent raises. I now fold. My reasoning is that chances are excellent that either the new lead bettor or the new raiser has an 86, and that I don't want to pay even 2 BB, let alone the entirely possible four BB, to take a shot at, probably, only half of this pot.
Go ahead and chop me up; I'll post the results later. Look at it this way - if I only posted those hands where I followed the instructions precisely, there wouldn't be any discussion at all.
Dick