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Ajax410
09-25-2004, 03:35 AM
My session tonight was pretty solid - played 1400 hands and made $37 - I didn't win any hands in my first 100-200, so I was fighting from behind for the most part - I was very happy with my results. Anyway, here are a few hands I'd love to have critiqued if anyone has time...

1) Making sure this is an okay way to play AK.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (5 BB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 folds, CO calls.

River: (7 BB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO folds.

2)Do I screw up by not re-raising the flop? I don't particularly want to give away my hand this early...I figure if I hit it I can extract extra value...is this wrong? I was also hoping to raise on the river - but the person betting ahead of me lost his nerve - maybe I should have raised on the turn?

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. MP2 posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, <font color="CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 (poster) calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Hero calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP2 folds, CO folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (9.75 BB) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: 11.75 BB
3) Would you play this one any differently?

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (9 SB) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, MP1 folds, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11.50 BB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: 11.50 BB

Final Pot: 8 BB

4) Played okay?

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (8 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls, SB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, SB folds, BB calls.

River: (12 BB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 16 BB

5) I'd seen this guy try to bluff a few times earlier...just wanted to call him down. Is this a bad spot to do it?

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
MP3 folds, Hero calls.

River: (6 BB) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: 6 BB

6) Should I have laid this down when I didn't flop any kind of flush draw? I'm pretty sure I'm drawing to very few outs.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG+2 3-bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG+2 calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (16 SB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (12 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: (16 BB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 20 BB

7) Obviously I get lucky, but was this a terrible call off the flop?

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) A/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP calls, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls, BB folds.

Turn: (5 BB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP calls.

River: (13 BB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>

For some reason the converter isn't showing river betting - Check from me, check from player 2, Bet from button, Raise from me, call from both players.

Final Pot: 13 BB

bisonbison
09-25-2004, 03:43 AM
Hand 1: I check-call the river.
Hand 2: misplayed on the first three streets. You sure screwed that "extra value" by calling the flop and turn. It involves raising.

I have a bad hand, they won't fold. I have a good hand, I don't raise. DOES NOT COMPUTE.

Hand 3: Converter screwed up, please PM me the hand.

Hand 4: Raise the flop. The pot is small, they'll already be making mistakes.

Hand 5: Converter error: please PM me the hand.

Hand 6: I don't cap preflop and then I fold the flop.

Hand 7: PM me the hand.

bisonbison
09-25-2004, 04:34 AM
Ajax was awesome enough to forward the misformatted hands on to me, so I could fix the converter. So, to save him the effort:

#3:
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (9 SB) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, MP1 folds, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11.50 BB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB


#5:

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (7.50 SB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, Button folds.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

River: (6.75 BB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB


#7:

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) A/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP calls, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls, BB folds.

Turn: (5 BB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP calls.

River: (13 BB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks, <font color="CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP folds, Button calls.

Final Pot: 17 BB

Jimbobobb
09-25-2004, 07:05 AM
1. Unless I had a read that CO was weak on the river I'd check/call. The board doesn't show any draws, so if he's come all this way he either has something, or he's just the usual bad.

2. I'd 3-bet preflop. Then I'd raise the flop. Then I'd raise the turn.

3. Hand 3 is just unfortunate. Not sure how you could have played it any differently....folding the turn might be weak, but I think it's a consideration. Not saying it's correct, but I probably pay this guy an extra 2 BB too :-/

4. Raise the flop.

5. This looks fine, but don't understand your comment about a player being a bluffer - you were doing all the betting.

6. Just call the 3-bet pre-flop. On the flop someone in front of you is betting into a pre-flop 3-bettor. The chances of it getting raised behind you by UTG + 2 are good, and you don't have any real draws besides overcards which are probably extremely slim. The Q and A of clubs are doubly suspect. Just giving up right there is a good way to save some cash.

7. From a strict odds point of view, you're getting about the right ones on this. 2 T's, 3 4's, and we'll say 1 for a backdoor flush is a tad better than 10:1, and you're getting 9:1 immediately almost closing the action. Still, I'd fold the flop. After button raises the turn, I'd just call the river. You're splitting with another T unless they have KT aor AT, and it would be nice to split MP's extra dollar. Also KT and AT will 3-bet you.