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bisonbison
09-14-2004, 10:27 PM
UTG+1 and Button are both pretty LAGGY.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (12.33 SB) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero caps</font>, CO calls, Button calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (14.16 BB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="CC3333">Button raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="CC3333">Button caps</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, CO calls.

River: (30.16 BB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="CC3333">Button raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 42.16 BB

Bigdaddydvo
09-14-2004, 10:30 PM
nice pot; hope you got it. not much more you coulda done.

sthief09
09-14-2004, 10:35 PM
Button is either:
- pumping the shyt out of an unpaired flush draw
- pumping the shyt out of 87, 22, or 88

about the time he caps my turn 3-bet, I start to think it's not a flush draw. I wouldn't 3-bet the river.

bisonbison
09-14-2004, 10:38 PM
Yeah, and then the river got me thinking I had a good chance of being ahead of 22.

jacki
09-14-2004, 10:41 PM
I assume cold-calling with 77 is table dependent and you "knew" you'd have 6 or so to the flop, and weren't too worried about a 3 bet?

sthief09
09-14-2004, 10:43 PM
Board: 7d 8d 2h 3h 8h

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 50.0000 % [ 50.00 00.00 ] { 88, 22, 87s, 87o }
Hand 2: 50.0000 % [ 50.00 00.00 ] { 7h7c }


with the CO coming for the ride, I now agree with you. you win AT LEAST 50% of the time, because the LAG could've overplayed something else, like AA he didn't raise, or T /images/graemlins/heart.gif9 /images/graemlins/heart.gif.

bisonbison
09-14-2004, 10:43 PM
Yeah, I knew that I'd get at least 4 to the flop, probably as many as 6 or 7. I wasn't worried about a 3-bet in that it wouldn't matter to me much in any case.

sthief09
09-14-2004, 10:45 PM
pocket pair + table with LAGs = good spot

joker122
09-14-2004, 10:46 PM
How do you manage to find yourself in such a pot nearly every day? I don't like the river 3bet.

bisonbison
09-14-2004, 10:47 PM
Try playing 1000 hands/day. Then play those hands aggressively.

sthief09
09-14-2004, 10:48 PM
read my newest post in this thread. I felt the same way as you at first, but not anymore

joker122
09-14-2004, 11:55 PM
This summer, I played 3 tables of 5/10 6max and 1 5/10 or 3/6 full. That's ~420 hands an hour - I logged about 4 hours a day. It was rare that I saw this kind of action.

bisonbison
09-14-2004, 11:58 PM
I'm not saying I see these kind of hands all the time, but set over set doesn't generate a ton of action in your 6-max games?

joker122
09-14-2004, 11:59 PM
hm...a personal preview to the results?

bisonbison
09-15-2004, 12:01 AM
Well, I think set over set is pretty clear from the turn and river action.

joker122
09-15-2004, 12:11 AM
Judging from the river action, I thought 78 was more likely.

sthief09
09-15-2004, 12:13 AM
87/88 vs 22 is 50/50... 3 combinations of each. a LAG will play 22 like the nuts, and obviously the nuts as the nuts

MAxx
09-15-2004, 12:16 AM
what is the golden rule for cold calling a pf raise with a medium or baby pp? how many do you need to see the flop with you?

sthief09
09-15-2004, 12:19 AM
when you're going to get action like this you don't need many. pocket pairs in aggressive games are gold

MAxx
09-15-2004, 12:29 AM
my aversion to coldcalling raises pf (besides with the occasional pp in CO or on button after many in the pot) has prevented me from makeing this play.

i need to get with this... hmm.

bisonbison
09-15-2004, 12:44 AM
RESULTS:

Button flopped the nuts, turned the nuts and rivered the nuts.
The CO had 75o, for the donator award and my only out.

I was thinking about this hand after I posted it, and I was just thinking: If I played this perfectly I'd have saved 2 BB. That's it. There must be a dozen hands an hour where I lose 2BB I don't need to. NEXT HAND.