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[Rudbaeck]

Should I have three-bet the turn?

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (7 handed)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, <font color="CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (13 BB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 folds, Hero calls, BB folds.

River: (18 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 20 BB

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Should I have three-bet the turn?


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I would've

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[Nemesis]

as would I, 89 or JJ are really the only hands that beat you, 3-bet with confidence. If he caps call the river only, if he calls and then checks value bet.

[SnakeRat]

You have BB caught in the middle, this pushes it into the easiest 3-bet ever category.

[Brain]

Yep, 3-bet that turn.

[topspin]

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as would I, 89 or JJ are really the only hands that beat you, 3-bet with confidence. If he caps call the river only, if he calls and then checks value bet.

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I'm curious, since many of the responses don't seem worried about a slowplayed 89 or JJ, what would you all put MP1 on that he would suddenly wake up on the turn (which is essentially a blank) after calling a capped flop?

I'd have thought JJ/89 would play the hand exactly as it unfolded -- passive on the flop since BB/Hero are doing all the capping for him, and bet out on the turn after Hero bets and BB slows down. Meanwhile, I can't see an unimproved two-pair or OESD suddenly deciding to get aggressive on the turn after being so passive on the flop.

[Rudbaeck]

I was alot more worried about a slowplayed JJ than a slowplayed 89. Against the later atleast I have mucho outs. Against JJ I have 1 out.

Maybe there is a chicken in me, but I'm always a bit careful when someone comes alive on a blank on the turn. Especially if that someone called 4 bets on the flop.

If it had been 0.5/1 it would have been even money that it was 72o spiking two pairs and deciding he had the best hand. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[topspin]

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Maybe there is a chicken in me, but I'm always a bit careful when someone comes alive on a blank on the turn. Especially if that someone called 4 bets on the flop.

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This was my first thought too when I read your post, which was why I'd be interested in hearing someone give an argument for continuing to fire on the turn.

I also found it curious that BB, after capping the flop and calling a bet on the turn, declined to close the betting on a 17BB pot for one more bet and folded instead.

[Nemesis]

JT or QK are posibilites, I see 2 pair or top pair here, are much more likely.

[Rudbaeck]

I'll try to take this advice to heart next time and three bet the turn.

In this case the villain actually had JJ, but I think you are right that this isn't the case so often that three betting is anything but profitable.