Party Ring

[mc4chess]

Hello, I play on Party Poker, and just went broke losing a 100 this week, I played .5/1 limit , 5+1 SNG's, and 10+1 sng's, I have been consistently doing well with the 10+1 SNG's and went from 50-200 and then I went back down to 100 by playing bad at ring, I played some more SNG's and consistently did well but I was stupid and went to ring where I took 25 to 25 nl and .5/1 limit, and always did bad, and I got down to around 25 , and eventually went broke. I finally learned I should have sticked to the SNG's lol, but I'm wondering now are the ring games tougher or do you think I'm doing something wrong. or a bankroll problem. I'm always worrying about my bankroll. I have played poker for about 2 years and feel I'm pretty good but I really must not be.

[uuDevil]

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...but I'm wondering now are the ring games tougher or do you think I'm doing something wrong. or a bankroll problem.

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There's really no way to say from short-term results. You should request hand histories and select some hands to post in the micro forum so the posters there can evaluate your play.

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I have played poker for about 2 years and feel I'm pretty good but I really must not be.

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What books have you read? Have you played mostly online or live? Home games or B&M casinos? Online is tougher at a given limit. If you play mostly home games with equally (in)experienced friends, you may not have an accurate impression of your skill level.

[Big Folder]

wow you sound a lot like me. I was doing the same thing, making money off SNG but then blowing it in limits. Recently though with some sound advice I've been doing quite well at the .5/1 but it is a totally different game from SNGs and I was run into trouble before i realized I was trying to play limit like SNGs in some cases and it just didnt work. I suggest reading the heavily suggested books by lee jones winning low-limit hold em and then ed millers small stakes holdem. The second is going to probably teach you to become the player you eventually want to be but jones' is a good starting point.

Good luck with everything, hopefully with enough experience and help from these forums you and I will both end up in teh black big time soon. Peace Bra /images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Mangatang]

First of all, your bankroll is too small for .5/1. You really need 300 big bets worth to ensure you don't go broke (assuming you're a winning player to begin with). If you want to learn to win at limit games, I suggest you start out at a site that has micro-limits (.05/.10, .20/.10, etc). Your money will last longer in these games, so you can gain the experience you need to become a winning player.

Good luck.

[scotnt73]

to be honest i could beat low limit sngs before i was even a break even ring game player. once i learned to beat ring games consistantly then i began crushing sngs. although sngs got really boring to me very quickly. i do like the 2 table sngs for now.

[burntazure]

Party .5/1 is a fickle beast. My initial deposit was 100BB; when I made the deposit I was not aware of the 300BB recommendation; however, if you have some more funds, then small 100BB deposits as you need them will be fine.

I did not have to re-deposit any funds in my case; I think this is due to luck (i.e. catching cards early on to build up the bank roll). I have had two bad downswings along the way, as a part of the learning process, and if they had hit early on (with only my measly 100BB initial funds), then I would've busted out. You must factor in getting sucked out and bad beats, which contribute to downswings, as a part of the game; your job is to minimize their impact.

Having said that, I think after you get some more experience under your belt and learn the subtleties of microlimit you should have no problem with becoming a quasi-break-even player. This is when the real learning begins. When I did not have to fear busting out I could play strong TAG poker. Now my roll can support higher limits, but I still play a lot of .5/1 since it is fairly straightforward there.

Go to microlimit forum & post hand histories; just ask for the opinion of others, but don't post the results of the hand since that can yield portentous responses.

As far as the SNGs go, I have played a few of them. In fact I have got two firsts and a second in $50+5 in the past week. But I consider SNGs more like gambling since you must need many, many buy-ins to support this (I could be wrong though).

To me, SNGs are like buying penny stocks and .5/1 ring is like buying shares of gillete or some big corp like that; I mean people are always going to need to shave or raise preflop with 47o....