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Noodles

07-12-2004, 10:08 AM

Party Poker 2/4 nHold'em (10 handed) no reads not the loosest table,converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, Hero calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (7 SB) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 raises, MP1 folds, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.
I think i should have raised here,to charge possible flush draws or str8 draws more,Since i have 2 8's the chance of anyone completing a str8 is small.also rasie to knock a few out

Turn: (8.50 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 players)
SB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, Button raises, SB folds, UTG calls, Hero calls.
Again what is the best way to play here?

River: (14.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
UTG bets, Hero folds, Button calls.
I hated the way i played this hand,I sem to have problems when i get trapped,i play chicken style

Final Pot: 16.50 BB
Main Pot: 16.50 BB, between Button and UTG. > Pot won by Button (16.50 BB).

Results in white below: 
UTG shows 6d 5c (two pair, sevens and sixes).
Button shows 8d 7d (three of a kind, sevens).
Outcome: Button wins 16.50 BB.

Guido

07-12-2004, 10:33 AM

I don't think you played this hand terrible. I think 3-betting is best on the flop but calling isn't terrible. After that the hand plays itself I think.

Guido

ScottTheFish

07-12-2004, 10:54 AM

I don't think you want to be 3-betting here, the draw you are charging is your own. 88 is not looking good as 2nd pair after the flop is raised in front of you. I would be ignoring my pair and playing the OESD.

bdk3clash

07-12-2004, 11:41 AM

http://www.whatsbetter.com/static/images/2586.jpg

"Call the river. Also, wokka wokka wokka."

Guido

07-12-2004, 12:09 PM

Why call the river? /images/graemlins/confused.gif After the turn it's pretty sure to me that you are behind...

Guido

bdk3clash

07-12-2004, 12:14 PM

15.5:1 sure?

adanthar

07-12-2004, 12:16 PM

This is exactly how I'd play it.

BTW, there's no point to calling this river. The button's not folding and he has something that beats 88.

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15.5:1 sure?

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155:1 sure. He cold calls 2 on the flop and then raises the turn. It's either a draw or a 7. At worst, it's a 9, which still beats you.

ScottTheFish

07-12-2004, 12:16 PM

Fozzy rules.

Guido

07-12-2004, 12:23 PM

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15.5:1 sure?

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So? You still beat close to nothing. It seems you think you win about 6% of the time. I think it's close to 2 or 3% probably even less.

Guido

J.R.

07-12-2004, 12:31 PM

Instead of just saying 15:1 and relying on the irrational "the pot is huge" logic, list some reasonable hands you beat which will be there more frequently than 15:1.

bdk3clash

07-12-2004, 12:33 PM

Yeah, you guys are probably right, especially given that the button might raise again.

Fozzy, how could you fail me? /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Garbonzo

07-12-2004, 12:56 PM

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Party Poker 2/4 nHold'em (10 handed) no reads not the loosest table,converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, Hero calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (7 SB) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 raises, MP1 folds, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.
I think i should have raised here,to charge possible flush draws or str8 draws more,Since i have 2 8's the chance of anyone completing a str8 is small.also rasie to knock a few out

Turn: (8.50 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 players)
SB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, Button raises, SB folds, UTG calls, Hero calls.
Again what is the best way to play here?

River: (14.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
UTG bets, Hero folds, Button calls.
I hated the way i played this hand,I sem to have problems when i get trapped,i play chicken style

Final Pot: 16.50 BB
Main Pot: 16.50 BB, between Button and UTG. > Pot won by Button (16.50 BB).

Results in white below: 
UTG shows 6d 5c (two pair, sevens and sixes).
Button shows 8d 7d (three of a kind, sevens).
Outcome: Button wins 16.50 BB. 

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I'm not sure it's correct, but I usually raise this pre-flop.

Is that "spewing" and or completely wrong?

Danenania

07-12-2004, 01:14 PM

I raise it preflop.