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Old 07-22-2005, 01:26 PM
TWINUNO TWINUNO is offline
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Default Perfect time for StopnGo or push

HoagieRoller is a real weak player calling raises which are 1/4 of his stack then check folding. What do i do here? Kind of afraid of big stack calling since i wont have much FE

***** Hand History for Game 2404962545 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14154526 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Friday, July 22, 13:21:02 EDT 2005
Table Table 11506 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: HoagieRoller ( $645 )
Seat 4: Fknbucky ( $3830 )
Seat 5: HERO( $825 )
Seat 6: ChairKaga ( $2700 )
Trny:14154526 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO[ Qh Ad ]
HoagieRoller calls [150].
Fknbucky calls [150].
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Old 07-22-2005, 01:35 PM
TWINUNO TWINUNO is offline
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Default Re: Perfect time for StopnGo or push

If HoagieRoller pushes this would be an insta fold right?
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Old 07-22-2005, 01:38 PM
Superfluous Man Superfluous Man is offline
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Default Re: Perfect time for StopnGo or push

It rhymes with "fall in."

Edit: Didn't notice that the big stack also called. Hmm. I still like a preflop push because winning the hand would bring you up to T2000 or so and give you a very good chance of getting 1st or 2nd. You're not exactly a lock to sneak into the money as it is.

Of course, I'm assuming AQo is well ahead of the big stack's calling range here, because I'm assuming he's a donk.
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Old 07-22-2005, 01:39 PM
jcm4ccc jcm4ccc is offline
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Default Re: Perfect time for StopnGo or push

Stop and Go would be about the worst thing you could do here. You would be pushing into 3 people (I believe Chairkaga is the BB and can just call preflop). It's suicidal to expect that the flop will miss everybody.

So you either want to put in 75 chips and call (but not as a stop and go, but to see if the flop hits you), or push preflop. Pushing preflop is very dangerous. Hoagieroller will likely fold (he'll be hoping that you get knocked out by the big stack) and Fknbucky will likely call. So your life will be on the line, and the short stack can fold into third place if you get knocked out.

Hell, I don't know. Push, call. [censored], damn, [censored]. Life sucks.

I think the way to think about this hand is to pretend that the short stack has folded (because that's what he'll do) and the big stack has limped in. Would you push in that situation? I guess you would. AQ is a powerful hand short-handed.
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Old 07-22-2005, 01:40 PM
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Default Re: Perfect time for StopnGo or push

You don't care about having a lot FE here because you have actual equity in the fact that your hand is AQ. Just push.
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Old 07-22-2005, 01:42 PM
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Default Re: Perfect time for StopnGo or push

I'd call and see a flop. It's only 75 more chips, right? Push/call an all-in if you flop top pair.
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Old 07-22-2005, 01:48 PM
Isura Isura is offline
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Default Re: Perfect time for StopnGo or push

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If HoagieRoller pushes this would be an insta fold right?

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I don't think so (assuming big stack folds). Hoagie has 4bb, and he's facing the blinds next. I'd definitely call with AQ.
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Old 07-22-2005, 01:48 PM
nate_king1 nate_king1 is offline
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Default Re: Perfect time for StopnGo or push

I'd probably push, the both showed calling hands, esspecial the chip leader after somebody limps. Push, they will probably fold is my guess.
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Old 07-22-2005, 02:01 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: Perfect time for StopnGo or push

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You don't care about having a lot FE here because you have actual equity in the fact that your hand is AQ. Just push.

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hahaha. i agree.
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