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Old 07-22-2005, 01:45 AM
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Default Call allin with K3o

Ok I feel like a douche because I lost the HH. Situation: PokerRoom $20+$2 MTT. Villian in this hand just lost a big pot but he's very solid. 3 handed ITM (50/30/20), you are BB. Blinds 200/400. You have 4000 chips. Villian has 2250 chips. He's pushed your blind twice in the last 6 hands (edit2: not sure if this was totally clear before, but he's pushed his button both times since ITM), you had hands like 95o and 83o. You think he's in "supar aggro mode" (70% sure) but ITM hasn't been going on all that long so you aren't totally certain, though he played very well more handed. SB is quite tight even though he has over 8000 chips, his blind is very easy to steal.

So the Button pushes again. You have K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Call or fold?

Edit: stacks are very approximate, but there are 15000 chips in play.
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Old 07-22-2005, 01:51 AM
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Default Re: Call allin with K3o

against any two, K3o = 0.54055

against a more refined range posted here, it just gets dominated. I wait for a better time - the tight SB helps in my factoring this as well.
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Old 07-22-2005, 01:56 AM
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Default Re: Call allin with K3o

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against any two, K3o = 0.54055

against a more refined range posted here, it just gets dominated. I wait for a better time - the tight SB helps in my factoring this as well.

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Hand set C is too tight. Hand set A is possible but I'm not certain, not enough hands since he might have switched gears.
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Old 07-22-2005, 01:58 AM
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Default Re: Call allin with K3o

Is he pushing a lot worse than Q6 or J9 here?

If so...I don't mind a call.

Without a great read here I like to fold b/c you are much more likely to be way behind vs. his range here than ahead of his range (IMO of course).

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Old 07-22-2005, 02:01 AM
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Default Re: Call allin with K3o

yeah, the hand sets are not ideal, but i think they show how weak K3o is - in set C, it is worse than 83s...
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Old 07-22-2005, 02:01 AM
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Default Re: Call allin with K3o

That's the thing. My opinion the chances of him pushing a hand like J5s was mixed. But it was too few hands, he could have been on a heater very easily.

I was certain he was pushing any two broadway, but I don't know about hands like Q6.
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Old 07-22-2005, 07:34 AM
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Default Re: Call allin with K3o

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I was certain he was pushing any two broadway, but I don't know about hands like Q6.

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So what you're saying is you hand is behind pretty much everything he's pushing. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 07-22-2005, 07:47 AM
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Default Re: Call allin with K3o

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Blinds 200/400

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You have 4000 chips

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he played very well more handed

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SB is quite tight even though he has over 8000 chips, his blind is very easy to steal

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I don't think it's time to call.
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Old 07-22-2005, 08:18 AM
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Default Re: Call allin with K3o

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So what you're saying is you hand is behind pretty much everything he's pushing. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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That's what I thought too but in retrospect the way the SnG went I should have called here.
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Old 07-22-2005, 09:02 AM
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Default Re: Call allin with K3o

It might make this interesting if villain was SB. Then I think I just might call. Sounds like he'd probably push at least nearly any two from SB.
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