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Old 07-16-2005, 12:20 PM
11t 11t is offline
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Default Anybody go to the felt here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

SB (t4815)
Hero (t1305)
UTG (t890)
Button (t6490)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t600</font>, SB calls t500, Hero...
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Old 07-16-2005, 12:25 PM
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Default Re: Anybody go to the felt here?

Im folding here, a 3xbb raise and a cold call is scary. If you push you will be called 93.7% (approx) of the time.
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Old 07-16-2005, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: Anybody go to the felt here?

I can't see pushing here, as you are going to be called by both players. Last thing you want to happen is be up against 4 overcards. With that said, and this may not be conventional thinking, why not call, and push the flop, unless it's something like AKJ or something. You are getting 3.5-1 on a call, and then you will have 705 chips to use on the flop to protect your hand. If you flop a set, you can check, and most likely triple up when someone bets. I will do this many times in tournaments, where I know I am a coinflip, I will often call a raise as a shortstack, leaving a few chips to put all in on the flop to protect my hand from a free turn and river.

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Old 07-16-2005, 12:32 PM
Sabrazack Sabrazack is offline
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Default Re: Anybody go to the felt here?

If pushing is bad, calling is like blowing your brains out. Please don't do this.
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Old 07-16-2005, 07:16 PM
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Default Re: Anybody go to the felt here?

Fold. UTG pays the BB next, he'll be at 690 and you'll have 1205 with two big stacks able to push him out if they don't fold around to you and let you do the pushing.

Or, perhaps the big stacks tangle this hand and you get into the money right now. One or both are going to call if you push here, and you're best hope of survival is if it's AK vs. AQ and you only have to dodge 8 overcards. Original raiser could be pushing with the less than premium JT or somesuch, which is even worse for you as now there's 12 overcards to dodge. If cold-caller has TT, you're screwed.

EZ fold.
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Old 07-16-2005, 07:56 PM
Offsprung Offsprung is offline
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I think you lay this down. UTG is getting desperate too. I think you gotta let the big stacks play this one out since you're guarenteed a call and you're hoping for a flip.
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Old 07-16-2005, 08:39 PM
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Default Re: Anybody go to the felt here?

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Im folding here, a 3xbb raise and a cold call is scary. If you push you will be called 93.7% (approx) of the time.

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I think you're off by about 6.3%
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