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Old 07-07-2005, 01:39 AM
ldavidjm ldavidjm is offline
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Default Newbie trying to make plays....

#Game No : 2322893270
***** Hand History for Game 2322893270 *****
NL Hold'em $5 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:13718216 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Thursday, July 07, 01:11:20 EDT 2005
Table Table 35319 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: moondrop ( $675 )
Seat 2: Sunnyho88 ( $935 )
Seat 3: CALBOY ( $825 )
Seat 4: ldavidjm2 ( $775 )
Seat 5: mico1231 ( $820 )
Seat 6: elwood22 ( $775 )
Seat 7: cjonesy ( $580 )
Seat 8: kloke18 ( $900 )
Seat 9: wanker751 ( $810 )
Seat 10: awkuan ( $905 )
Trny:13718216 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ldavidjm2 [ 8d 8c ]
wanker751 folds.
awkuan folds.
moondrop raises [30].
Sunnyho88 folds.
CALBOY folds.
ldavidjm2 calls [30].
mico1231 folds.
elwood22 calls [30].
cjonesy calls [20].
kloke18 calls [15].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jd, 4s, Jh ]
cjonesy bets [200].
kloke18 folds.
moondrop folds.
ldavidjm2 is all-In [745]
elwood22 is all-In [745]
cjonesy is all-In [350]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ac ]
** Dealing River ** [ Tc ]
Results in white (hopefully)
<font color="white">
cjonesy shows [ 3d, 3s ] two pairs, jacks and threes.
ldavidjm2 shows [ 8d, 8c ] two pairs, jacks and eights.
elwood22 shows [ Js, Ts ] a full house, Jacks full of tens.
elwood22 wins 390 chips from side pot #1 with a full house, Jacks full of tens.
elwood22 wins 1800 chips from the main pot with a full house, Jacks full of tens.
</font>
Obviously in this one it was early and my thinking was this, the PF raiser is out, nobody fastplays a jack like that at a 5, everyone likes to slowplay, and on these paired boards, a lot of times the guy with the 4 or a small pocket pair thinks he's gods gift to mankind and overbets like that, so I'm ahead of 7's and down and A4, and behind to any jack or higher PP which seems unlikely since the PF raiser is gone and there wasn't a reraise on the min raise. Obviously once button calls I'm screwed but should I be worrying about a player behind me when a situation like this comes up? Should I even be playing 88 in a min raised pot?

2nd Hand
#Game No : 2322880096
***** Hand History for Game 2322880096 *****
NL Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:13718236 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Thursday, July 07, 01:08:56 EDT 2005
Table Table 35062 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 4: la_rand ( $800 )
Seat 5: gvaness ( $755 )
Seat 6: philly_duce ( $600 )
Seat 2: msimon21 ( $770 )
Seat 10: david057 ( $795 )
Seat 9: ldavidjm2 ( $775 )
Seat 3: bigal2009 ( $845 )
Seat 7: blindbob67 ( $790 )
Seat 1: pobox ( $260 )
Seat 8: pirk123 ( $1610 )
Trny:13718236 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ldavidjm2 [ Ah Ks ]
la_rand folds.
gvaness folds.
philly_duce calls [15].
blindbob67 folds.
pirk123 raises [30].
ldavidjm2 calls [30].
david057 folds.
pobox folds.
msimon21 folds.
bigal2009 folds.
philly_duce calls [15].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8h, 3h, 5h ]
philly_duce checks.
pirk123 bets [65].
ldavidjm2 calls [65].
philly_duce calls [65].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ts ]
philly_duce checks.
pirk123 bets [125].
ldavidjm2 is all-In [680]
philly_duce folds.
pirk123 calls [555].
** Dealing River ** [ Qs ]
Results in White
<font color="white">
pirk123 shows [ 9h, 9d ] a pair of nines.
ldavidjm2 shows [ Ah, Ks ] high card ace.
pirk123 wins 1670 chips from the main pot with a pair of nines.
ldavidjm2 finished in tenth place.
ldavidjm2 has left the table.
</font>
90% of the time I reraise PF, I'm not sure why I didn't other than I don't like committing 100 or more chips PF very early like this without a high pocket pair, and I can't really push this...

I don't know I don't like committing another 125 chips just to see another card, and I figured with a scary as hell board out there, me having a ton of outs if I'm called that its a decent play. Again there's the consideration of the guy behind me but I think I get a fold from a typical player often enough to make this worth it?? Or am I way off here? Thanks all.
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