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Old 09-03-2001, 10:47 AM
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Default SKLANSKY: EASY LIKE SUNDAY MORNING!



He's easy. Easy like sunday Morning! Sklansky is easy. Yes he is. I'm sure. I've been told. No use denying. You are easy Mr Oz O'Sklansky. Yes you. No one else. Yes I'm referring to poker. This is poker related easiness I'm talkin about. Easy to read. Easy to beat. Easy like sunday morning. Easy David Sklansky.


Hey he read your book! All of your opponents have read your book. You are easy. He told me so just last night. I got a witness. I got the witness. "My best poker buddy in the whole world" was in the 7 seat I was in the 8 seat. We were at The Mohegan Sun Casino playing 20 - 40 Holdem. It was a great game. I played 8 hours I won $130 after being down $900 in what seems like the first five minutes. Dangerous didn't win. We will leave it at that. I killed him on several occaisions when he had big hands and I managed to have bigger hands behind him. Hey he may be "my best poker buddy in the whole world" but poker is poker. He'll get even or better someday, I'm sure.


When I got up from the table another 2 + 2 poster "Anon" sat in my seat. We talked a little before that. He is a bright young junior in college. Watch out!


The guy was in the five seat. His wife, yes his wife, was in the 6 seat. She was a pleasure to play poker with. Great personality and loved to laugh. She called a little to often though but for most of the game she was obligingly weak tight. Oh did I mention that she had an MBA. He was a friendly guy also. Don't know what he does for a living but I know he loves to check raise and loves to play a lot of hands. It was his night though. Every time I raised preflop and isolated him he managed to out flop me. Frustrating! I don't feel to bad about losing to him because he is the one that enlightened me. Yes he told me that without a doubt that SKLANSKY, DAVID "OZ" is and will forever be easy.


Why, he's read his book. So have his all of his opponents that play in the $80 - 160 game at Bellagio's! This fellow has played with David and quite frankly he said has no fear of him at all. Everyone in the game just takes advantage of

David because... now please listen carefully... weak tight, weak tight... David is weak tight. I'm not speaking of Mason Malmuth. We all know that Mason is weak tight. Everybody knows that. But now we know the truth. Mason must have taught David. David is weak tight. I'm sorry David for spilling the beans but what's right is what's right. Besides, now that you know you are viewed by some, especially those kicking you butt in the 80 -160 game as a Mason Malmuth clone, you may be able to figure out something to help you in your time of need.


I'll tell you though, I hope you continue on your path of "weak tight" self destruction for I shall be in Vegas later this year.

I had no intention of playing above $30 - 60 this year. But life is short and when you have information such as "David Sklansky is weak tight" how can one refuse. See you at the 80 -160 table, David! Life is good! "That's why he's easyyyy...Easy like Sunday morning!


Vince
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Old 09-03-2001, 11:09 AM
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Default Were you drinking Sambuca when you wrote this?



Vince,

Did you have a bit too many cocktails prior to posting this?


MG
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Old 09-03-2001, 05:38 PM
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Vince,


Don't be so sure about Sklansky. Anyway, how many hours has this college guy logged at the table with David? Wouldn't you think that David could be using this image to loosen up the table?


Good Luck


Mark


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Old 09-03-2001, 06:45 PM
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A few weeks back, I posted I had spotted Mason in L.A. When I asked a player who had played with him what he thought of Mason's play, he told me he didn't know who Mason was. When I identified him, he told me he was nothing special, he just played tight.


Made me think of Mason's essays where he explains why a tight image is best for hold 'em.


Tight like Monday morning.
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Old 09-04-2001, 04:07 PM
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I'm really surprised that I did not recieve more comments about my "SKLANSKY, EASY LIKE SUNDAY MORNING!" post. It is very obvious that I was making sarcasm. Well trying to make a point using sarcasm, maybe it wasn't obvious but I was.


When this recreational, call or raise every hand, player blurted out how easy a player David is I was shocked. I will admit I have heard negative comments about the 2 + 2 boys books before. But never about David's play in the $80 - 160 Bellagio game.


It may have been wrong to get mad but this guy really pissed me off. After all David is one of my Hero's. I suppose I expectd a lot of commens in support of David. Now I realize that there are not a lot of people that read this forum that play in the 80 - 160 Bellagio games. So how would anyone know how David plays. I can only tell you from my experience while watching (sweating) David that he plays as well as he writes. Hey am i making this worse? First I writ he's easy now I write he's tough just what in the hell am I trying to do any way? You asking me? Hey let's just say that I was able to relay a little bit about my poker Sunday with my buddy Dangerous Dan by using David. Those of you that read it know that I played 20 - 40 Holdem. Played almost all day (9 hours) and left $130 ahead. That's reporting my experience, isn't it? More likely than not I will use something like this that happens during my sessions while I'm on the road to talk about how I did. That means if you want stats you may have to dig them out.


Mohegan Sun is an interesting place to play. It is a amall room. Mostly low limit on the approximately 40 tables. They have a couple of table games in the room. I believe there is "Carribean Stud" and/or "Let it ride!". The 20 Holdem game, when it goes, is almost always a rockem and sockem affair. At some point during each session I have played there, I have experienced "California 6 - 12 DeJavu". "Cap it" becomes the phrase of the day. For some reason everyone seems to lose their sanity at almost the same time. When this happens the feeding frenzy begins. The one or two grizzlees in the game walk out over the rocks and grab up a hand full of pink salmon and begin to chomp down. Some of the more elusive ones escape but you can tell that the next mating season is not far off and those that survived this time will suely be gobbled up the next.


There were also a 20 - 40 and a 40 - 80 Stud game going the whole time I was there so I believe weekends are good mid limit times.


Well, enough of that. I wrote this to let everyone know that my Sklansky post was a bit o sarcasm pointed in the direction of the player that told me "Sklansy is easy". Well maybe he is but I wouldn't bet on it.


Vince



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Old 09-04-2001, 04:43 PM
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The guy simply can't tell the difference between tight and weak-tight, that's all.


And I've played with David, and he is TIGHT, no doubt about that.


I like that kind of good player at my table, as opposed to the kind of good player who is loose, unpredictable, and great at reading me. David may be great at reading me, but he's out of the pot often enough that it doesn't kill me.


If you're picking somebody to back in 80-160 at the Bellagio, you should still pick David over me. In a few years, I expect that to change, but I'm not there yet.


Later, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)
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Old 09-05-2001, 02:01 PM
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Vince,

It was nice meet you on Saturday at the Sun. I was the guy who introduced myself to you and offered candy to you and the table.


By the way Vince took two, while his buddy (Dangerous Dan)snagged one.


Later



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Old 09-05-2001, 02:36 PM
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Hey Prime time,


Thanks for the candy but you got me wrong. I only took one. I gave two to the young lady (I that was sitting at the table. she offered you a thank you but I'm not sure you noticed. I enjoyed our brief but friendly meeting. Hope to see you at MHS again.


Vince
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Old 09-05-2001, 04:00 PM
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"David may be great at reading me, but he's out of the pot often enough that it doesn't kill me. "


That is an interesting observation. I believe David and Mason have both written about avoiding play against strong opponents. David by himself I believe would be welcome in a game in which I was playing. Maybe even 2 David's (if that were possible) But 3 or more David's and I'm out of there.


"If you're picking somebody to back in 80-160 at the Bellagio, you should still pick David over me. In a few years, I expect that to change, but I'm not there yet."


The humble words of a Fossilman. I suspect I would do well regardless of which I backed. Of course if I had the money to back you I'd back that guy that can out play both of you. I know you know who that world class fellow (me) is.


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Old 09-05-2001, 07:19 PM
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"After all David is one of my Hero's. "


Vince, David is a hero to ALL of us. That's why I originally nominated him for Grand Poobah of the Universe. (that was before they gave me the job). However, if you are going to hero worship, you have to get your apostrophes right.


Seriously though, the player who was "dissing" Dave is probably not only misinformed, but has gotten the wrong image of Dave while Dave is playing. This wouldn't surprise me that much, really. If Dave is playing well, it wouldn't surprise me at all if someone had the WRONG IMPRESSION OF HIS PLAY. Perhaps the session where this individual got his opinion of Dave saw Dave getting far fewer than normal "good hands" dealt to him. Or maybe he missed the flop more than often and had to fold more. Well, maybe this player then concluded that Dave was easy to read. Obviously Dave must be weak-tight. He's tight, that's pretty clear, but he's weak because he never really did anything spectacular, never made any good plays. Perhaps this player formed his opinion without REALLY having sufficient information about Dave's playing.


Besides, we all know that Dave is a Super-Genius, just like us. Just like Wile E. Coyote too. So this guy must be full of something stinky to think any less of Dave. Somehow I doubt that Dave will go very far out of his way to change this dude's mind either. Anytime a player believes that you are playing differently than you really are, you MUST be gaining.


Dave in Cali
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