22: BB, 2+2er in SB

[45suited]

PP 22. Blinds 50-100. I knew the SB to be a 2+2er and he had open pushed his last chance from the SB. Do you like my call with 44?


UTG ( $800 )
CO( $2439 )
Button( $3136 )
SB ( $790 )
BB (HERO) ( $835 )

Blinds(50/100)

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 4c 4s ]
UTG folds.
CO folds.
Button folds.
SB is all-In [740]
BB (HERO) calls [690].

[45suited]

Just in case this appears to be a stupid question, here's my thinking with the call. Yes I know that I could be dominated but I am likely just a slight favorite. I could pass and push when I'm the SB. But I also know that this crap is never going to stop, so I might as well just take my stand now with likely the better hand. The stack sizes were such that, when it comes around next time, I might find myself in a much worse position, and a much worse hand. Comments?

[jb9]

I'd be lying if I said I actually like calling all in bets with 44, but I think he's probably pushing with any 2 and you are going to have trouble stealing blinds from those big stacks if your chip count gets smaller, so if you are ready for a coin flip, go for it and hope he doesn't have 55.

[bluefeet]

2+2er knows he can push any two here. He only needs to push outside of top 35% for this call to be +EV. Given your "read" on who's doing the pushing, the call isn't debatable in that respect.

[xJMPx]

Personally I don't like it. Although he is a 2+2er, which means he's pushing any two here, there are a lot of hands that contain two over cards to your 44. I'd only call with pockets when I think there is a very decent chance one of his cards will be lower. Ie, when I have like 77+.

Let's see what SNGPT says...just as I suspected, I'm wrong. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

If he's pushing any two it is +2.0$EV to call. He has to be pushing a tighter range than top 35% (22+,A2+,K5o+,K2s+,Q9o+,Q8s+,J9s+) to make this a fold.

[45suited]

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Personally I don't like it. Although he is a 2+2er, which means he's pushing any two here, there are a lot of hands that contain two over cards to your 44. I'd only call with pockets when I think there is a very decent chance one of his cards will be lower. Ie, when I have like 77+.

Let's see what SNGPT says...just as I suspected, I'm wrong. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

If he's pushing any two it is +2.0$EV to call. He has to be pushing a tighter range than top 35% (22+,A2+,K5o+,K2s+,Q9o+,Q8s+,J9s+) to make this a fold.

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I was also taking into account, not just this hand, but what will likely transpire the rest of the game. Constantly having him push into me. Me having a hard time stealing from the bigstacks. It wasn't shaping up to be a pretty game. I think that I just had to take the chance and make my stand here. Of course, it's a huge bonus that if he IS pushing any two (likely) then the call is +EV on its on merits. But larger game factors also apply, IMO.

[xJMPx]

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I was also taking into account, not just this hand, but what will likely transpire the rest of the game. Constantly having him push into me. Me having a hard time stealing from the bigstacks. It wasn't shaping up to be a pretty game. I think that I just had to take the chance and make my stand here. Of course, it's a huge bonus that if he IS pushing any two (likely) then the call is +EV on its on merits. But larger game factors also apply, IMO.

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Good point, this is something I don't think I put enough thought into during game play. I have to work on that.

[tigerite]

This is a pretty easy call, 45s.

[tigerite]

Oh yeah and he probably never pushes AA here and only sometimes KK so you can factor that into the ranges argument as well.

[11t]

I think if villain knew hero was a 2+2'r as well than he would be open pushing AA/KK here.

Anyways if I was SB I am pushing AA/KK and any hand within my pushable range. I love shania though.