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12-14-2005, 10:32 PM
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K6s in BB - Turn Donk
I've been trying to win more pots out of position because I think I usually give up too easily. I was planning to donk pretty much any turn card. What do you think?
Party Poker 15.00/30.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(5 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, SB calls, Hero calls. Flop: (6.00 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, SB folds, Hero calls. Turn: (4.00 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font> 
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#2
12-14-2005, 10:54 PM
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Re: K6s in BB - Turn Donk
Hey Evan,
The problem I have here is that he is too likely to call with ace high, because its such an ugly board, a potential draw is there so you might be semibluffing with any diamond, and mostly because he would have a gutshot. And then for him its just one more bet on the river, and you have to fire both barrels. I think this is not the spot to try and win the pot OOP - I check/fold the flop. -DeathDonkey
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#3
12-14-2005, 11:19 PM
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Re: K6s in BB - Turn Donk
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I check/fold the flop. [/ QUOTE ] I feel like if I'm going to call fold a 552 flop I might as well just not play the hand. I'm not really disagreeing because that's what I'd usually do. But it just doesn't make sense if you think about the big picture (one less person, bigger pot, unilkely to have hit my opponent). I don't know. Maybe I'm just trying a little too hard.
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12-14-2005, 11:22 PM
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Re: K6s in BB - Turn Donk
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[ QUOTE ] I feel like if I'm going to call fold a 552 flop I might as well just not play the hand. [/ QUOTE ] Why do you say that? [/ QUOTE ] Basically the same thing I said in my OP, I feel like I'm giving up too easy.
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#7
12-15-2005, 08:05 PM
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Re: K6s in BB - Turn Donk
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[ QUOTE ] I check/fold the flop. [/ QUOTE ] I feel like if I'm going to call fold a 552 flop I might as well just not play the hand. I'm not really disagreeing because that's what I'd usually do. But it just doesn't make sense if you think about the big picture (one less person, bigger pot, unilkely to have hit my opponent). I don't know. Maybe I'm just trying a little too hard. [/ QUOTE ] the problem with calling the flop is you are committing yourself to taking a shot at the pot, at least some portion of the time. you dont have odds to draw to 6 outs, and thats not considering the fact that you dont have 6. and on this board, you just dont have much folding equity. and you always have the option of deciding on the turn whether you want to take it away. this was a bad card to do it on. first of all, it is a wheel card so Ax might even raise for a free sd. you need to be able to try and hit your outs when your bluff fails the next is lots of hands are calling you. probably any hand with a diamond calls. you have very little FE on this board. deciding you are going to fire 2 barrels is not an option. the last problem is this is the quintissential "no one has anything" board and i dont think it takes much more than a novice hand reader to know that you probably dont have anything i mean, its nice to think "K high is good really often here" but as long as he has position and initiative its going to be tough to take it down with K high. when the times you do tkae it down, it will have taken a significant investment to do so
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#8
12-15-2005, 08:21 PM
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Re: K6s in BB - Turn Donk
I hate these type of boards. It always turns into an e-penis battle.
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