150-300 PAYOFF

[J.A.Sucker]

Wow, I can't agree with you here, Paluka. Why is this a fold preflop? I'm a nit, for sure, and I'm stealing with K3s here, especially against tight blinds. I'm also playing the hand the way she did, all the way. She gets a free card when she knows she's beaten and then has a crying call on the end.

What kind of hands do you think Mimi will play this way? I think it's any decent A and any pair. If she has a pair, you let her off the hook too easy with JV's line. Not 4 betting and leading the turn may be good if you think she'll fold if you do jam it, but I don't find that happening very often (if it does, then you've got a ripe opponent, BTW).

[Paluka]

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Wow, I can't agree with you here, Paluka. Why is this a fold preflop? I'm a nit, for sure, and I'm stealing with K3s here, especially against tight blinds. I'm also playing the hand the way she did, all the way. She gets a free card when she knows she's beaten and then has a crying call on the end.

What kind of hands do you think Mimi will play this way? I think it's any decent A and any pair. If she has a pair, you let her off the hook too easy with JV's line. Not 4 betting and leading the turn may be good if you think she'll fold if you do jam it, but I don't find that happening very often (if it does, then you've got a ripe opponent, BTW).

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When the blinds were described as tight, the game was also called tough. I took this to mean "the blinds are tight-aggresive players who play well" not "the blinds are tight players who fold too much in the blinds". In games like this, the button probably 3 bets you aggressively as well. I just think that K3s is not quite a strong enough hand to open with. I don't like playing shorthanded pots with 2s and 3s in my hand, either. If you assured me the blinds were "tight rocks" rather than "tight aggressive" then I could see the preflop raise being +EV.

[J.A.Sucker]

I hear you here too, but I guess I don't play many hands, so I tend to get some extra respect here. This is a clear steal from me, but I really am a nit most of the time. I'm not going to marry myself to the hand either, so won't be in too much trouble as long as the thing isn't capped back to me, I'm OK, especially if I get 3 bet from one of the blinds and not the button.

[Chris Daddy Cool]

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Comments? How do you guys feel about this open in the cutoff is it profitable?

The CO in this hand was not me, it was mimi tran, and I was in the big blind with a strangely played AQ.

You guys can comment on my play as well, which isn't too good. I think the flop should be four bet.

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was your plan to checkraise the turn? i don't think its too bad of a line though i think i like putting the pedel to the metal and 4 betting her.

[Ulysses]

JV,

What did you put her on? I guess a worse Ace-high that calls but checks behind?

[J_V]

A flush draw didn't enter my mind. I thought she had a good ace high a low to medium pair or an overpair. I figured he most likely hand was around 77 and that she would probably bet the turn.

After not four betting, donk betting is much better than going for a check raise.

[Chris Daddy Cool]

given the way you played it, do you think checking the river is a viable option to induce a bluff? (no reason to believe the 3 helps her hand and her hand seems pretty weak A high or flush draw-ish.)

[J_V]

I think a middle pair is a very viable hand for here here. Thus i bet the river. Maybe putting her on a small pair after checking the turn is wrong. Hard to put her on a flush draw though.

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"I think a middle pair is a very viable hand for her here. Thus i bet the river"

If for some reason u knew for sure she had a middle pair then checkraising is the right play by a wide margin.

[TheBusiness]

I think that if the button and blinds are all pretty tight, Mimi raising K3s in the CO can be +EV, and I don't think its automatically a bad play as some people in this thread seem to think. I like your smooth call preflop with AQ in the BB.

Just about everyone in the CO in this situation will auto-bet this flop, so I also like your checkraise. After that I think you played very oddly. In my mind, her 3-bet screams "I want a free turn!" If she had the other queen or a pretty big pair, I believe she would call your flop checkraise and then raise the turn, rather than 3-bet the flop, as it would earn her an extra half bet if you were the one drawing or if she put you on a smaller pair or A high. Because of this, I would have capped the flop and led the last two streets, or at the very least, donk-bet the turn after calling the flop 3-bet. Unless she flopped a boat (which she didn't), there is no way she has you beat here, and I wouldn't want to miss any bets if I were you, nor give her any free cards if she does have outs (which she did).