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Old 12-18-2005, 08:07 AM
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Anyone see this article? Pretty interesting stuff. There is no such thing as race. White skin is just a genetic mutation. What are the implications for this discovery?

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Does it explain why white men cant jump?
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Old 12-18-2005, 08:18 AM
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Anyone see this article? Pretty interesting stuff. There is no such thing as race. White skin is just a genetic mutation. What are the implications for this discovery?

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Does it explain why white men cant jump?

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or dance?

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Old 12-18-2005, 02:11 PM
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The intelligent designer created man and the races about 8000 years ago. Genetic mutations and evolution is just a theory.
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Old 12-18-2005, 02:48 PM
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The intelligent designer created man and the races about 8000 years ago. Genetic mutations and evolution is just a theory.

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Old 12-18-2005, 02:57 PM
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The intelligent designer created man and the races about 8000 years ago. Genetic mutations and evolution is just a theory.

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[/ QUOTE ]It's not a strawman argument when by all accounts the majority of Americans think someone created us in our present form.

http://www.pollingreport.com/science.htm
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Old 12-18-2005, 03:02 PM
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It's not a strawman argument when by all accounts the majority of Americans think someone created us in our present form.

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Genetic mutation, as far as I know, is not contested all that much. We can observe mutation. Even micro-evolution can be observed. That makes his statment a strawman.
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Old 12-18-2005, 03:08 PM
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. Some scientists suggest that lighter skin offered a strong survival advantage for people who migrated out of Africa by boosting their levels of bone-strengthening vitamin D; others have posited that its novelty and showiness simply made it more attractive to those seeking mates.

Where the white women at?
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Old 12-18-2005, 06:06 PM
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The color of ones skin has nothing to do with their athletic ability or else in the summer when Im tanned up I would be able to jump higher and run faster. With that said, of course blacks on avg. are better athletes then whites and I cant believe anyone would dismiss that or argue otherwise. How you keep all the baggage of race out of this is not to compare whites to blacks but rather blacks to asians, and no one in their right mind would not agree that blacks are physically superior to asians, especially considering that the avg American female is taller then the avg Japanes man. Also the World Health Organization distributes larger size condoms to African countries then European and then Asian counties. Why?? The only reason their are any white professional athletes is because blacks only make up about 12% of the American population, if they made up 40%, their would be no whitey. The reason people still try and argue that their arent any physical differences between the races is because once you open that door, youre now able to pose the same question regarding intellect, etc.
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Old 12-19-2005, 12:41 AM
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Default Re: Scientists Find A DNA Change That Accounts For White Skin

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You're not talking about athletic superiority- you're talking about height; a polygenetic and highly variable trait which is inherited independently of skin color.

It is true that warmer climates prefer people who have higher body mass to surface ratio and longer appendages to give off heat, and the inverse to preserve heat in cold climates. More often than not, people living in warmer climates are also dark-skinned, but there are many populations which are an exception to the rule (again, refer to the large African pygmie populations); one trait does not indicate the other and again there is more variation within populations than between populations. This explains the penis thing; populations from colder climates have shorter thicker everything; including penises. It doesn't make them athletically superior; it just makes them taller on average. But that is not enough to explain the prominence of dark-skinned athletes in the U.S. Culture is the main cause there. Again, notice how many European whites are coming over here to play basketball (and all from poor countries). If playing sports professionally weren't such a long-odds gamble you'd see a lot more whites in the pros. There are whites out there in board rooms and running family businesses who could have been NBA all-stars if they'd dedicated their lives to it from a young age, like many blacks in America do. Look at Tiger Woods. You think he's genetically superior to every other person on earth when it comes to golf? No way. He was trained rigorously from a very, very young age to play golf. The same happens for more blacks in America than whites- their place in society gives them more drive to achieve athletic success.

IQ has already been studied. When education, environment, socio-economic status etc. are controlled for there is no difference between populations in IQ.

Again, alleles are inherited independently of each other, and there has been interbreeding between populations of [censored] sapiens since we emerged as a species. That means just because you know one phenotype of a person (say, their skin color) that does not give you any indication about any other phenotype they have. This is scientific fact. It is not something you can argue with based on what seems obvious to your own eyes.
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Old 12-19-2005, 01:18 AM
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There are whites out there in board rooms and running family businesses who could have been NBA all-stars if they'd dedicated their lives to it from a young age

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So all it takes is dedication to be a great athlete? A sports publication recently listed their 2005 high school football All-American team. Out of the 22 first teamers pictured, 19 were black. Considering that the overwhelming majority of high school football players in the country are white, this is quite amazing.

Your theory that blacks dominate because they are driven to do so just doesn't hold. Every white kid in Texas and Pennsylvania and many other places grow up dreaming to play in the NFL or at least at a major college. Being a football star makes one a God in many of these places. Those kids work year around at it and are extremely driven. Why don't they make it in the NFL, while the black kids do, if all it takes it dedication to the sport?

There are 64 starting cornerbacks in the NFL..all are black. I have been following the NFL for about 15 years, the only white starting cornerback I can remember is Jason Sehorn. Do you really believe there isn't a biological reason behind that? Do coaches discriminate against white cornerbacks for some reason? Or could it be that white players don't have the physical tools to play that position?
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