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Old 12-14-2005, 02:36 PM
joshgill17 joshgill17 is offline
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Default 5-10 NL Live QQ Preflop decision

Game is very loose with 2 other solid players. Saw a guy call $350 preflop with 33 with no hesitation. Currently I have $1100 in front.

Cards are dealt, guy in middle position raise to $35 folds to the button who goes all in for $145 (very upset at the time), SB then pushes for about $490, the action is on me and I look down at QQ. Initial raiser is behind me and he has me covered. Call? Push? Fold? and explain your brilliant logic please.

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Old 12-14-2005, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: 5-10 NL Live QQ Preflop decision

Is puke an option? Is SB or button one of the other solid players? How bout MP? This is push or fold IMO and it depends largely on what you think of these guys.
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Old 12-14-2005, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: 5-10 NL Live QQ Preflop decision

As far as player reads the button is terrible, SB is bad but not a total donk, MP is very solid but has liberal PF raising standards. Puke is an option...
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Old 12-14-2005, 03:30 PM
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Default Re: 5-10 NL Live QQ Preflop decision

I don't care how loose the table is FOLD.

I hope this is only a joke.
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Old 12-14-2005, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: 5-10 NL Live QQ Preflop decision

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As far as player reads the button is terrible, SB is bad but not a total donk, MP is very solid but has liberal PF raising standards. Puke is an option...

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Seriously, this is not even close imo.
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Old 12-14-2005, 03:48 PM
RikaKazak RikaKazak is offline
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Default Re: 5-10 NL Live QQ Preflop decision

I fold, but I do think it's close, reason I fold is initial raiser behind me; also SB might have KK. I don't see SB playing AA this way cause I think he would call, wanting a 3rd person in. Then again he might be a donk (or disagree that calling is correct, I can see an arguement for both) and just look down at AA and push. I could see button having something like 99, SB have AK and early folding or button have 99 SB have JJ and you folding best hand. But I still think with how much you're risking folding is correct. If you folded the best hand, oh well.
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Old 12-14-2005, 03:54 PM
AcesUp2121 AcesUp2121 is offline
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Default Re: 5-10 NL Live QQ Preflop decision

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As far as player reads the button is terrible, SB is bad but not a total donk, MP is very solid but has liberal PF raising standards. Puke is an option...

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Seriously, this is not even close imo.

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Puke it is?
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Old 12-14-2005, 04:00 PM
AdamBragar AdamBragar is offline
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Default Re: 5-10 NL Live QQ Preflop decision

I've definitely played in 5-10 where this is an insta all in.

Don't get me wrong, there are tables and situations where I will fold QQ preflop. Online, I will clearly fold QQ preflop in a situation like this. But there are definitely times I will push here, this seems to be one of them.
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Old 12-14-2005, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: 5-10 NL Live QQ Preflop decision

the range of hands for the button could be any mid-high pair or Ace face. That is obvious to everyone at the table. when the small blind pushed I knew he wanted to get heads up with the button. I had a solid read that the initial raiser was folding. I agree that i'm folding this against better competition 90% of the time.

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Old 12-14-2005, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: 5-10 NL Live QQ Preflop decision

I push. SB and dealer are short stacks. It looks like it could very well be an isolation play. Unless you have a reason to beleive that MP will call ur push with AA/KK I put it in. I just don't really respect short stacks.
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