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Old 12-07-2005, 03:46 PM
citanul citanul is offline
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Default odd move at the higher stakes games

the reason i specify higher stakes games is because i know that at the lower stakes games people do this with all sorts of stupid crap.

i've seen a rash lately of people with 6-8 bb raising 2/5 - 1/2 of their stack from 75/150 on.

1) do you think that this gets them more FE than a push?
2) do you think that this gets them more action than a push?
3) do you do this?

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Old 12-07-2005, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: odd move at the higher stakes games

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the reason i specify higher stakes games is because i know that at the lower stakes games people do this with all sorts of stupid crap.

i've seen a rash lately of people with 6-8 bb raising 2/5 - 1/2 of their stack from 75/150 on.

1) do you think that this gets them more FE than a push?
2) do you think that this gets them more action than a push?
3) do you do this?

c

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1. yes
2. duh...see 1
3. maybe I should...no
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Old 12-07-2005, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: odd move at the higher stakes games

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2. duh...see 1

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i hate you.
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Old 12-07-2005, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: odd move at the higher stakes games

Lower stakes - more action.
Higher stakes - more FE.

Do I do this? No. I call with really strong hands (AA,KK,QQ) if it is short handed.

Otherwise, fold or push.
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Old 12-07-2005, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: odd move at the higher stakes games

I think if you do it once, you get respect and have a ton of FE. Second time around, you figure out they are idiots. I will give them the benefit of the doubt first pass. Second, I am re-stealing all the way.

I never do this.
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Old 12-07-2005, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: odd move at the higher stakes games

I have seen this quite a bit as well at the 55's (not sure if that counts as higher stakes or not).

Against the thinking players this at first glance appears to increase FE slightly.

Against the non-thinking players this seems to increase action.

I have not decided to start doing this yet, but I am considering it depending on the opponents behind and if I want a call or not.

-Mike
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Old 12-07-2005, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: odd move at the higher stakes games

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the reason i specify higher stakes games is because i know that at the lower stakes games people do this with all sorts of stupid crap.

i've seen a rash lately of people with 6-8 bb raising 2/5 - 1/2 of their stack from 75/150 on.

1) do you think that this gets them more FE than a push?
2) do you think that this gets them more action than a push?
3) do you do this?

c

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1. No.
2. Yes.
3. Sometimes if the table's right I'll do this with AA or KK, usually not QQ. They have to be bad enough to not know what's up though.

As an aside, I've noticed a lot of people doing this and then folding to pushes. Lately at the 109's people have been folding a lot of situations where they should be calling with 32o. It's sweet.
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Old 12-07-2005, 03:55 PM
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Default Re: odd move at the higher stakes games

well, if they do it for more fold e. it doesn't work on me anyway. If I'm close in deciding, the small chance they will fold to my push (and yes, they do sometimes) tips the scales for me to play.
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Old 12-07-2005, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: odd move at the higher stakes games

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2. duh...see 1

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i hate you.

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(read as: "I love you")
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: odd move at the higher stakes games

I just view this as if they have pushed, and act accordingly. Actually their hands even tend to be weaker than you'd expect - often Ax where x is absolute crap.

It gets no respect from me. I very rarely do it.. I can't even remember the last time.
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