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Old 09-05-2005, 12:13 AM
steveyz steveyz is offline
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Default Re: How\'s this line?

There are players who 3-bet with any PP regardless of where the original raise is from. This guy seems like as he could definitely fit the profile.
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Old 09-05-2005, 12:20 AM
steveyz steveyz is offline
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Default Re: How\'s this line?

I think this is a spot where you should vary your play greatly depending on exactly what information you have on your opponent. I don't mind your line, but your reasoning in some of your responses are a bit off the mark. I think you overestimate your chances of moving a 30/17/4 player off a better hand here. 99 is not folding often here. In fact, I think there's a greater chance that 99 3-bets the flop (and checks either turn or river). And betting the turn will certainly NOT fold QQ/JJ.

I think most of the time, the flop check-raise is fine because overcards are more likely to fold a blank turn (compared to if you just called the flop and donk bet the turn). Once the K shows up, you're in trouble. Depending on what you think the ability of your opponent to bluff here, bet-calling, bet-folding, or check-calling are all viable options for the turn. I actually do like check-calling the turn and check-folding the river in many situations.
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Old 09-05-2005, 05:04 AM
imashyboi imashyboi is offline
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Default Re: How\'s this line?

I agree with your reply and so with 1800Gambler. I think you have two ways to play this hand. I actually don't mind check/call the flop and check/raise the turn if he bets out again. He seems like a aggressive player and might even fold a bigger PP than ours. All these plays depends on what plays you have been doing so far in the game.

If we do use the fancy play on the turn and he calls what should we do on the river? Are we betting out here for value or check-call to induce a bluff? I'm pretty sure if we check and he bets our hand wouldn't be good. I like betting out if we plan on calling though.
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