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Old 11-03-2005, 06:59 PM
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Default 88 heads-up

BB is basically unknown, but lets say over a small sample he's semi-competent. He's probably a little too loose and average or slightly above average aggression wise.

5 handed

Folded to you on the Button, where you raise 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], SB folds, BB 3-bets, you call.

Heads up to the flop, 6 small bets

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

BB bets, you call

Heads up to the turn, 4 big bets

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

BB bets...


Do you play pre-flop or the flop differently?

What's the plan from the turn on?
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Old 11-03-2005, 07:02 PM
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Default Re: 88 heads-up

I can see some people who would cap preflop. As for me, against most I would call, but would definitely raise that flop.
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Old 11-03-2005, 07:06 PM
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I think I remember CDC saying it's good to cap preflop with 88 every once in a while for metagame/inducing mistakes on ace-high flops, but I don't think that's really applicable at this level. So I almost always call the raise pf.

I'd raise the flop basically all the time.
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Old 11-03-2005, 07:06 PM
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I can see some people who would cap preflop. As for me, against most I would call, but would definitely raise that flop.

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Raising the flop is definetely a solid option.

How does a flop raise compare to a turn raise as far as the way the hand is likely to play out when considering the BB's range of hands? (You know what I mean?)
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Old 11-03-2005, 07:10 PM
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How does a flop raise compare to a turn raise as far as the way the hand is likely to play out when considering the BB's range of hands? (You know what I mean?)

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I'm not really sure what you mean? I'm raising the flop for value and protection with a likely good but vulnerable hand. Are you thinking you're more likely to fold a better hand with a turn raise?
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Old 11-03-2005, 07:15 PM
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How does a flop raise compare to a turn raise as far as the way the hand is likely to play out when considering the BB's range of hands? (You know what I mean?)

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I'm not really sure what you mean? I'm raising the flop for value and protection with a likely good but vulnerable hand. Are you thinking you're more likely to fold a better hand with a turn raise?

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Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

I seem to have a habit, especially when I'm heads-up, of not raising the flop very much. I'm sure it's correct to wait sometimes, but I'm afraid I'm probably over-doing it.
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Old 11-03-2005, 07:21 PM
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I raise the flop here most of the time, but on occasion I just call the flop and raise the turn, then check behind on the river UI.
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Old 11-03-2005, 07:28 PM
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I raise the flop here most of the time, but on occasion I just call the flop and raise the turn, then check behind on the river UI.

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This was what I did, but this hand kinda got me thinking.

I raised the turn and he called.

The river was the K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and I checked behind.

Another thing I was wondering, (other than the flop play), was that with the way the action went through the turn, what river cards, if any, should I be betting?
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Old 11-03-2005, 07:33 PM
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what river cards, if any, should I be betting?

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Umm, I think you can bet an 8 [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]. Betting the river is read dependent. Do we think villain calls with A high or an under pair? Most of the time I just check the river and am happy to either take the pot or not have lost more bets to an over pair.
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Old 11-03-2005, 07:36 PM
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I wouldn't do anything differently. Raise the turn.
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