Flopped The Fullhouse, Weird line, Weird river situation.

#1 10-28-2005, 06:49 PM

No reads on villan, and my image is rather tighter but I think I've won a smallish pot the previous hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

MP2 ($181)
MP3 ($267)
CO ($1047.75)
Button ($477.45)
Hero ($424)
BB ($85.30)
UTG ($427.70)
UTG+1 ($118)
MP1 ($76)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
4 folds, MP3 calls $4, 2 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($12) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP3 checks.

Turn: ($12) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $8, BB folds, MP3 raises to $16, Hero calls $8.

River: ($44) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $12, Hero raises to $40, MP3 raises to $68,

#2 10-28-2005, 06:52 PM

It looks like your opponent hit his flush. Push and take all his money.

FreakDaddy · #3 10-28-2005, 07:00 PM

Odd line for both of you without a read. I don't play this sloppy unless I have a good read/reason.

Well, OOP I don't mind the flop check. The turn though I'd get some more money in. Villian is saying he likes his hand, and I'd prefer to see how much he likes it. He may not like what he sees on the river and freeze.

Without a read I just call the river. I really need to know what the flow of the table has been like and have some sort of read before I just push here. Perhaps that's weak tight, but it's very concievable that villian has 55, TJ or more remotely JJ. If the table's been really tight maybe he limps a big pair, but as is I just call. Before pushing I'd like to know if he'd do something stupid like mini-rasie the turn on a draw. Maybe he has something like Ac3c or AT and I feel stupid, but not much really makes sense without more info.

j0wlev · #4 10-28-2005, 10:01 PM

Im more than happy to get it all-in here since it's not a random BB we are up against. Push and win a nice pot.

msb · #5 10-28-2005, 10:14 PM

With no read at all, I think just call and be prepared to kick yourself.

Checks the flop, min-raise the turn, min-raise the river? Looks like me might be trying to entice you to push.

You have a lot of hands beat, but I'm suspicious of those min-raises....

Phoenix1010 · #6 10-28-2005, 10:30 PM

Flop check is fine. Think about three betting the turn to get max value from strong tens, flat calling is fine for the few times he has a flush draw and hits, but that doesn't happen often. If you flat call the turn, definitely lead this river for 2/3 pot and call any raise. If the turn had been anything but an ace, jack, or 9, I would have been fine playing this all-in. As it is, there's too good a chance that you've just been outdrawn for you to get greedy. As it is, the river miniraise is too weird for you keep playing back at him. Just call and behold his JT. He might have a flush, but there's no guarantee that he's going to call another big reraise with it on a paired board, while you're tied to the pot if you're behind.