Bet For Value On The River?

#1 12-16-2005, 12:57 AM

BB is a LAG, esppecially pf. UTG is LPP. No reads on SB - 1st cycle at table.

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB raises, UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG calls, MP folds, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, BB folds, UTG calls, Hero calls.

River: (17.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero ???

Final Pot: 17.50 BB

Do I bet for value on the River?

Any comments on the flop or turn?

jba · #2 12-16-2005, 01:05 AM

dude please explain the turn raise

mongoose51 · #3 12-16-2005, 01:15 AM

I fold on the flop, your hand is certainly not good now, your overcard outs are questionable, you have a very weak draw.

ArturiusX · #4 12-16-2005, 01:17 AM

Easy preflop raise, flop call is ok in this big pot, turn raise is just handing money over.

Check behind.

#5 12-16-2005, 01:20 AM

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dude please explain the turn raise

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I raised the turn for value. I give this 10 outs, 7 for OESD (discounting 1 for a diamond), and 3 for overcards. If BB and UTG come along, I should have enough for a value raise.

jba · #6 12-16-2005, 01:25 AM

10 outs = 20% equity, four way pot means -equity

edit: if you're going to give yourself 3 outs for your overs then the river is a no brainer isn't it? (edit2: maybe not after turn 3bet)

#7 12-16-2005, 01:30 AM

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I fold on the flop...

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I'm getting 13:1 and I'm closing the action.

DMBFan23 · #8 12-16-2005, 01:36 AM

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Easy preflop raise

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buh?

#9 12-16-2005, 01:45 AM

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10 outs = 20% equity, four way pot means -equity

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I miscalculated. It absolutely was spewage Thanks.

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edit: if you're going to give yourself 3 outs for your overs then the river is a no brainer isn't it?

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That's my question. After SB cr's the turn then checks again on the river, is there value in betting the river? I'd almost certainly call a raise.