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middle card pairs and the donkey donks
villain here is 45/12/1.7. Other than that i really don't know much about him. These turn spots are very confusing for me. Do I raise? If he's betting a draw, I need to charge his dumb ass. Im he is on total air, do I want to discourage him from firing again on the river? If I raise and he 3-bets, is it not an easy fold? Please tell me what to do.
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls. Flop: (4.33 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls. Turn: (3.16 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] |
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Re: middle card pairs and the donkey donks
I always raise this. More often than not he'll be check-raising a set here. This looks like a pair of 4s that picked up a flush draw or more likely a 7 not wanting to give a free card.
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Re: middle card pairs and the donkey donks
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I always raise this. More often than not he'll be check-raising a set here. This looks like a pair of 4s that picked up a flush draw or more likely a 7 not wanting to give a free card. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with the raise. The other possibility is just someone taking a shot on a scare card. 1.7AF, playing nearly half his hands is pretty aggressive. We still have an overpair. The more interesting situation is when/if he 3bets. I probably call and see what happens on the river. If he just calls the turn and bets out again, I should probably fold, but will probably call. |
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Re: middle card pairs and the donkey donks
It's a tough spot, I'd usually raise and I'm not convinced you can fold to a 3-bet here, this player may be pretty aggressive (although it's hard to be sure without his wtsd stat) and something like A7, 55, any 2 spades (especially with a pair to go along), 99/88 could 3-bet you here. If he folds a lot on the flop or turn then calling down may be a better option.
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Re: middle card pairs and the donkey donks
Yeah, I agree we gotta call down a 3-bet.
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Re: middle card pairs and the donkey donks
definitely raise. he has a 7/5/4/[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] flush draw extremely often, and players like this, in my experience, will check raise with a 6 here.
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Re: middle card pairs and the donkey donks
Either call-call, or raise-call-call. I actually prefer the former against an unknown.
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Re: middle card pairs and the donkey donks
Raise. Call down if 3-bet. They love to donkbluff the paired turn, don't they?
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Re: middle card pairs and the donkey donks
On this board, I'd raise. On other less drawy boards, I'd call and raise the river.
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Re: middle card pairs and the donkey donks
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On this board, I'd raise. On other less drawy boards, I'd call and raise the river. [/ QUOTE ] this should be the concensus. there are just too many draws for him to have here for you to not raise the turn, unless you know he will lead busted draws on the river. if you know he'll continue betting, you still make your two bets off of draws, and you make 3 bets off of made hands worse than yours. |
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