river raise

joker122 · #1 11-28-2005, 08:20 PM

no read.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, SB calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (5 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

River: (5.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises,

meh?

i intend to fold to a 3bet.

jt1 · #2 11-28-2005, 08:27 PM

I'm not sure. Will a pp or smaller pair fold here?

I'd rather see what he has and make a note on him.

#3 11-28-2005, 08:27 PM

What do you think will call the raise that you beat? I don't like it. You open yourself up to being 3-bet by better hands, while folding out stuff you beat. Your hand has showdown value, so see a showdown. You're not extracting another BB from enough hands that you beat here to make it worthwhile.

B Dids · #4 11-29-2005, 12:42 AM

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What do you think will call the raise that you beat? I don't like it. You open yourself up to being 3-bet by better hands, while folding out stuff you beat. Your hand has showdown value, so see a showdown. You're not extracting another BB from enough hands that you beat here to make it worthwhile.

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Bingo.

joker122 · #5 11-29-2005, 12:45 AM

a worse king? a ten?

B Dids · #6 11-29-2005, 12:49 AM

You think a ten is paying off a raise on that board? Not often enough to risk getting 3-bet, same with a worse King.

joker122 · #7 11-29-2005, 01:00 AM

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You think a ten is paying off a raise on that board? Not often enough to risk getting 3-bet, same with a worse King.

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pretty much everyone agrees a worse hand never 3bets this river..

yellowjack · #8 11-29-2005, 01:04 AM

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You think a ten is paying off a raise on that board? Not often enough to risk getting 3-bet, same with a worse King.

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I don't think many regular players are capable of bet/folding for just 1 BB if they have a pair.

Spicymoose · #9 11-28-2005, 08:29 PM

Call the river.

joker122 · #10 11-28-2005, 08:55 PM

"Call the river."

i would appreciate more than this. not so much for my sake, but i really don't want to see this forum goto crap.

anyway, don't you think a big hand like a flush, straight, or trips check raises the river?