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#41
12-11-2005, 05:17 AM
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Re: stupid 1010 hand
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people say this all the time and they are always wrong. there are like 3 10/20 players on the whole site who will fold to a cap after raising and im one of them. [/ QUOTE ] OK, I'll confess....now who's the 3rd one? EDIT: I posted before reading past the quote. Vic, looks like we have more than 3 so far. 
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#42
12-11-2005, 05:18 AM
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Re: stupid 1010 hand
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ok. if i was a good player i would fold the turn absent a flush draw. [/ QUOTE ] That's far more sensible.
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#43
12-11-2005, 05:36 AM
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Re: stupid 1010 hand
love it. whole hand. all streets. just beautiful.
to everyone saying fold the river---maybe, but sometimes people go crazy and sometimes you are splitting with TT. if you dont think its possible he'll ever play AK like this then i guess you could fold, but i dont usually, because i dont trust my opponents.
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#45
12-11-2005, 06:01 AM
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Re: stupid 1010 hand
Our House: what did he have, Kh, Kx?
Victor: qq Victor: not sure if he had heart or not Our House: k Our House: still, you can't be sure Our House: in NL maybe Our House: in a live game maybe Our House: with a super read maybe Our House: not just 400 hands of stats Victor: ok Our House: i've talked to a lot of top notch players/posters Our House: they all say the same thing Our House: we don't make much of our money online from making great laydowns Our House: let's say you needed him to lose 10% that hand Our House: and it's really 6% Our House: you're a 4% dog on one bet Our House: you're losing 4% of $20 Our House: 80 cents bro Our House: not $20 Victor: makes sense Our House: but if you really feel that way preflop, you should fold Our House: cause TT is no different than 99 or 88 or 77 Our House: against that guy Our House: plus.... Victor: i play those the same way Our House: you do realize that by capping you back him off right? Our House: you may get a free river or turn Our House: if you cap Our House: then he leads and you raise on the flop Our House: there's a good chance he'll think QQ is no good Our House: and check the turn Our House: you'll bet Our House: he's done now Our House: you can decide to check the turn or river Our House: a turn check would be bad Our House: but a river check is good Our House: you don't get outplayed by a worse hand and you get to see the SD for half a bet less Victor: close to convincing me Our House: lol Victor: i never thought of that line
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#46
12-11-2005, 06:06 AM
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Re: stupid 1010 hand
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shocked you arent advocating a cap. [/ QUOTE ] a cap totally bloats the pot and takes away your positional advantage on SB with a hand that has very little equity 3 ways and bad reverse implied odds. that is, of course, unless you can get btn to fold (which i doubt). i think in this case calling is >>>> capping also, another line that pops into mind against this guy is to cap the flop, and if he leads the turn call (or fold if no str8/flush d) and fold the river. if he checks to you on the turn i think you need to bet at least the turn and maybe even the riv (IF you think he will play AK lik ethis)
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#47
12-11-2005, 06:07 AM
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Re: stupid 1010 hand
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a cap totally bloats the pot and takes away your positional advantage on SB with a hand that has very little equity 3 ways and bad reverse implied odds. that is, of course, unless you can get btn to fold (which i doubt). [/ QUOTE ] quoted bc thats what i think too.
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#48
12-11-2005, 06:15 AM
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Re: stupid 1010 hand
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also, another line that pops into mind against this guy is to cap the flop, and if he leads the turn call (or fold if no str8/flush d) and fold the river. if he checks to you on the turn i think you need to bet at least the turn and maybe even the riv (IF you think he will play AK lik ethis) [/ QUOTE ] would like thoughts on this line
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#49
12-11-2005, 06:28 AM
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Re: stupid 1010 hand
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[ QUOTE ] also, another line that pops into mind against this guy is to cap the flop, and if he leads the turn call (or fold if no str8/flush d) and fold the river. if he checks to you on the turn i think you need to bet at least the turn and maybe even the riv (IF you think he will play AK lik ethis) [/ QUOTE ] would like thoughts on this line [/ QUOTE ] i like. another line i would never think to do. atually, i like this the best. bet/fold type lines are good vs. the loose passives it seems.
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