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Old 10-05-2005, 01:20 PM
SossMan SossMan is offline
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major TV tournament.

Hero is UTG w/ 7k.
Blinds 150-300 a25. Hour levels.
Hero tosses out a 1k chip intending to raise, but he is an internet donkey playing in his first live tournament and doesn't know the one chip rule. everyone at the table knew his intent.

He has AKo and a very tight (prob weak tight) image.

He gets 5 callers. 6 to the flop w/ ~2k in the pot.

Flop is KQx rainbow

He bets out 1200. Young aggressive name pro next to act flat calls. Everyone else folds.

Pot is 4400 and hero has 5500 left.

Turn is a small card putting two spades on board (no spades for hero).

Hero checks.

Young aggressive pro immediately slides out four 1k chips (4000).

Hero?
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:31 PM
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Hero curses himself out for betting instead of checkraising the flop, then figures there's a 3:1 chance of being good here (not to mention the ace outs) so this is a no brainer call after which he can go cry himself to sleep in a side game.
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: interesting WPT tournament hand

I agree with the checkraise btw
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: interesting WPT tournament hand

You really want to try a check-raise in a 6 way hand? WHat if there is a bet and a raise before it getsback to you? WHat if it's checked around? Heads up with the aggressive guy I like it, but with 2 blinds who haven't paid to play I really don't.
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: interesting WPT tournament hand

If there's a bet and raise when it gets back, you play poker, but that's actually a better reason for checkraising than betting (you find out there's a potential problem for 1200 less chips.) I'm not worried about a 6 way KQx pot getting checked through at all.
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Old 10-05-2005, 02:57 PM
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If there's a bet and raise when it gets back that's actually a better reason for checkraising

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Old 10-05-2005, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: interesting WPT tournament hand

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Hero curses himself out for betting instead of checkraising the flop, then figures there's a 3:1 chance of being good here (not to mention the ace outs) so this is a no brainer call after which he can go cry himself to sleep in a side game.

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Err, hes getting worse than 2-1... not 3-1.
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Old 10-05-2005, 04:09 PM
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Hero curses himself out for betting instead of checkraising the flop, then figures there's a 3:1 chance of being good here (not to mention the ace outs) so this is a no brainer call after which he can go cry himself to sleep in a side game.

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Err, hes getting worse than 2-1... not 3-1.

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Hero's stack is all going in, he's getting about 2.8:1 or so.
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Old 10-05-2005, 04:14 PM
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Hero curses himself out for betting instead of checkraising the flop, then figures there's a 3:1 chance of being good here (not to mention the ace outs) so this is a no brainer call after which he can go cry himself to sleep in a side game.

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Err, hes getting worse than 2-1... not 3-1.

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Hero's stack is all going in, he's getting about 2.8:1 or so.

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Since the bet is essentially all in, lets just say villain is betting heros 5500, and the pot is 4500. thats 10000-5500. Worse than 2-1. What am I missing.
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Old 10-05-2005, 04:18 PM
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Since the bet is essentially all in, lets just say villain is betting heros 5500, and the pot is 4500. thats 10000-5500. Worse than 2-1. What am I missing.

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Any of my posts about math/pot odds being exponentially worse before 6 PM-ish since that's when my day basically starts [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] Heh, at least I don't add that way in games.

Umm, 2:1...makes it closer. I think I can outthink myself and fold, but I don't like either very much and really want to checkraise the flop.
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