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Old 10-17-2005, 07:17 PM
CardSharpCook CardSharpCook is offline
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This is from a Live Limit Tourney. $550 event 55 players at the bike.

My read on Seat 2 is that he is a fish. He bets when he has stuff, he calls when he shouldn't, he plays way too many hands, and he's not that hard to read. His read on me should be that I am a tight aggressive player. He has seen me play few hands, and play those hands aggressively or get out quick.

AK [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in MP. Folded to me, I raise, SB (seat 2) and BB both call.

Flop: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB bets, BB folds, I raise.

Turn: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
He checks, I check.

River: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
He bets, I quickly raise, he just as quickly 3bets. I fold.

I'd never make this fold online, but given the read I had on him and his quick bet, I folded. I also thought, "he's got to know exactly what I have, he can't be thinking that I'd fold an ace here." But I did, and I regret it. Should I?
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Old 10-17-2005, 07:19 PM
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Default Re: Laydown that I regret

the tourney forum is

<--- that-a-way
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Old 10-17-2005, 07:21 PM
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the tourney forum is

<--- that-a-way

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True, but few if any posters in MTT know dick about Limit. I'm the resident MTT Limit pro, which should tell you a little something about our dire needs.
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:37 AM
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Default Re: Laydown that I regret

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I'm the resident MTT Limit pro, which should tell you a little something about our dire needs.

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MTT limit pro? Is that possible? There are hardly any Limit MTT's where I play.

JT [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
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Old 10-18-2005, 03:41 AM
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I'm the resident MTT Limit pro, which should tell you a little something about our dire needs.

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MTT limit pro? Is that possible? There are hardly any Limit MTT's where I play.

JT [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

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that's why I'm broke. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 10-18-2005, 03:48 AM
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Does anyone bet this turn given CSC's read on villian?
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Old 10-17-2005, 07:25 PM
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Default Re: Laydown that I regret

In a cash game, very few players bluff 3-bet, and bad player virtually never. You made an excellent fold of a good but probably 2nd best hand.

Now, this is a tournament, so there may be some different dynamics at play. Was he short-stacked and giving up? Even in a limit game, short-stacks sometimes just "rack off", tossing he last of their money in the pot in a spot they know is -EV, because they are annoyed they are losing and just don't care.

This is much more common on the early streets than the river though. I think your fold was the right move.

good luck.
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Old 10-17-2005, 07:45 PM
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really bad fold.
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Old 10-17-2005, 07:48 PM
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really clear fold.

[/ QUOTE ]yeah.
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Old 10-17-2005, 08:16 PM
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No one will ever expect anyone to be capable of folding an A, let alone AK. The player you described is not capable of 3 betting less than trips, and your fold is completely fine.
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