Pwned by Freddie Deeb, WPT Bellagio ME

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How bout some results david?

[sirio11]

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How bout some results david?

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Hand #1:

After doing some analisis, and hearing Freddie talk; I folded.

Hand#2:

I was going to push the turn (I had about 19k), but decided to just call the 5k.

River was Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and Freddie bet 6k into the 16k pot and I couldn't find a fold and called the 6k leaving myself with 8k.

He showed me the nut flush with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

[ChrisW]

Hand #1 is fascinating. It seems that you took the standard line, but is there any case for raising the turn (say 5K)? The way this hand was played, it looks like you are committed to calling down if a blank comes on the river. Thus, if your plan is to fold when a heart comes (what were you doing if an 8 came?), you are unlikely to win any more chips from a river bluff.

So, maybe you could make a blocking bet now, which would also protect your hand against e.g. TT with a heart. Perhaps a turn raise isn't that believable given the preflop reraise and flop check. Would Deeb risk his tournament on that read?

Hands like this make me wonder about the value of random plays such as checking the top set in position on this flop. Sure, many scare cards could make your life difficult, but if a blank hits, perhaps an aggressive player will lose his whole stack trying to take you off the hand because he "knows" you can't hold QQQ on a draw-heavy board and thus are likely to fold under serious pressure. So, you check the flop and raise the blank turn, and he puts you on some blocking bet and repops you, etc.