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Old 12-10-2005, 04:15 AM
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Default Did I get slowrolled here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (9 handed) converter

CO (t11115)
Button (t7650)
SB (t10460)
BB (t5455)
UTG (t35794)
UTG+1 (t9250)
MP1 (t9725)
Hero (t21305)
MP3 (t15410)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t1200</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t1200, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>.

Flop: (t2600) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1500</font>, UTG+1 calls t1500.

Turn: (t5600) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t3500</font>, UTG+1 calls t3500.

River: (t12600) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t3025 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t3025.

Final Pot: t18650

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG+1 has Kc Ad (four of a kind, aces).
Hero has Qd Qh (full house, aces full of queens).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins t18650. </font>



Villian's been pretty active, rest of table's been pretty passive/conservative. A reraise preflop here would probably be optimal, looking back, but I doubt I could get him off the hand.

Anyway, the reason I ask is on the river, he used his entire (full) timebank before he put in his last 3k in chips. Of course I wasnt going to laydown a 3k bet for 15k with my hand. Is this kind of the definition of a slowroll?
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Old 12-10-2005, 04:20 AM
benneh benneh is offline
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Default Re: Did I get slowrolled here?

that's a sort of online semi-slowroll. though, it was done before the showdown of hands.

if he had been the caller, it would be closer to a "true" slow roll, but this is still a pretty douchey move for him to make (unless he's really just retarded and thought you would fold getting 5.1)
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Old 12-10-2005, 04:52 AM
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Default Re: Did I get slowrolled here?

whyd you fire again on turn?
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Old 12-10-2005, 06:19 AM
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Default Re: Did I get slowrolled here?

Huh? slowrolled?
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Old 12-10-2005, 08:16 AM
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Default Re: Did I get slowrolled here?

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Huh? slowrolled?

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Anyway, the reason I ask is on the river, he used his entire (full) timebank before he put in his last 3k in chips.

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Old 12-10-2005, 11:30 AM
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Default Re: Did I get slowrolled here?

How can you slow roll online? By definition it's impossible.

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Old 12-10-2005, 12:02 PM
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Default Re: Did I get slowrolled here?

No slowroll here. He was probably just making it seem like he had a hard decision (though he did put 2/3 of his stack before the river so not that hard). He would have slowrolled you had you set him all in on the turn or river, and THEN use his time bank to finally make the call with the nuts.
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Old 12-10-2005, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: Did I get slowrolled here?

Maybe my definition is off, but I thought slow roll was deliberately showing your hand last even though you know it's the winner. Usually seen as obnoxious.

Sounds like what the guy did was deliberately wait to bet in the hope that you'll call it. Maybe he was afraid you were still on a draw and wouldn't call at the end. Not a slowroll as I see it anyway.
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Old 12-10-2005, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: Did I get slowrolled here?

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.... but this is still a pretty douchey move for him to make (unless he's really just retarded and thought you would fold getting 5.1)

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Not every vilian is 2+2 and you WANT monkfish to pay you off on the river, I'm for whatever it takes to make that happen.
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Old 12-10-2005, 12:46 PM
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Default Re: Did I get slowrolled here?

If I think using 20 secs before pushing this river increases my chance of getting a call by even a tiny amount. I see nothing wrong with it. Waiting 20 secs to call with the nuts on the other hand, is a ahole move.
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