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Old 11-10-2005, 12:26 AM
Chipr777 Chipr777 is offline
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Default Caesars WSOP Circuit event report ( As requested by Steamboatin)

As many of you know I'm a floorman/dealer at Horseshoe Tunica so I had an oppertunity to help out with the Circuit event at Caesars Indiana. The fisrt few days we're awesome. There were an avarage of 20-30 single table satalites going at all times and the first event set records for a $300 event. As far as the staff at Caesars I can't say enough good things. They we're very receptive and welcomed us with open arms. Harrah's in general stuck us. They didn't cover any costs. I had to pay my own travel and hotel. They wouldn't even cover the $200 cost of a gaming permit for 2 weeks of work. If things don't change with that respect there won't be any dealers to deal the events. A couple other bad points were all tokes we're added to a check and you wern't paid till the event was over. No dealers that traveled could deal any live action. The poker dealers split with the pit. Cash, per gaming, can't play on a live game. In my opinion this hurt the side games in a big way. Many of the large "cash" games are called cash games for a reason. If the state of Indiana wants to be taken seriously within the poker world they're going to have to take a look at a few of their laws. All in all I had a great time. I wish I had a little more time to visit with Steamboatin but the hours I worked didn't allow much to do outside of work.
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Old 11-10-2005, 08:01 AM
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This might sound awful to some but I think it is accurate. The fact that cash doesn't play in Indiana and Caesar's won't let the dealers sell chips hurts the cash games. If someone is on tilt or steaming, if He can just buy chips immediately or if a complete fish wants to keep reloading with small stacks easily, they are more likely to stay in the game and that is profitable for the good players.

At Caesar's IN, they have to get up and go to the cage to buy more chips and that gives them time to think. After standing in line for a few minutes, they often realize thay are making a poor decision and head for the door. Now this is probably good for them but it makes the cash games a little less fishy.

Free liquor would really make poker good in Indiana.
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Old 11-10-2005, 08:59 AM
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Not allowing cash to play is death for high limit games. Many players don't want to go to the cage to buy 10k in chips (or similar amounts) very often b/c they don't want to be hit with a CTR every day of their lives. I also believe cash should not only play, but play in such a way that they can just pull the paper into the pot and give chip change. Having to break the bills (as they do in AC, CT, etc) is very annoying (esp. when people just throw in bill after bill or leave rather than go to the cage to get more chips, etc). Also, as steamboatin said, making players go to the cage gives them a chance to realize they are just pissing money away.

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Old 11-10-2005, 09:41 AM
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Well, part of the problem with Caesars Indiana, is the Casino itself.

Don't get me wrong here, the poker staff is super, but upper management still pretty much treats the poker room, as the stepchild of the Casino, and thus by default it's players, as 2nd class citizens of the Casino.

As I mentioned in another thread in this forum, as a player, you can't get reduced rate hotel rooms based on your play in the poker room, NOR can you use your playing time, to accumulate comps for the resturants (with the exception of the snack bar) in the Casino, like you can at most other Poker Rooms.

I mean unless you were staying for 7 days or more, you couldn't get the $79.99 WSOP Circuit event special rate, and had to pay the full rack rate of $149.99 (both rates are before taxes).

In addition, as mentioned, the dealers do NOT get to keep their tips, but must share them not only with each OTHER, but also with ALL dealers in the Casino, regardless of the game being dealt.

The Dealers are also not allowed, to play in the games either themselves, during their off times.

Until the Belterra opened up THIER room this past summer, these dealers had to drive 2 hours each way to play at the Altazar in Evensville Indiana if they wanted to play.

By contrast, Belterra, which is IMO, the best Casino in the region, BAR NONE, goes out of it's way to make their patrons feel welcome and loved, and that carries over to their poker room as well.

While Belterra's poker room is quite small, unless something else major is going on in the area (such as the WSOP Circuit events), most times all their tables are full, they spread all kinds of games and levels, and they have a list.

Not only that, but I have heard they treat their dealers really good there.

Their tips are their own to keep for starters, the ONLY casino in the area, that does that for their Poker Dealers I might add.

I think it all boils down to the fact, that unlike Tunica, where the compitition is fierce for the gambling dollar, here in the Gambling/Poker Desert of Ohio/Indiana/Kentucky, the casino's don't have to work as hard, since they don't have as many casinos in the region to compeat against.
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Old 11-10-2005, 09:53 AM
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Poker room comps can be used at the Buffet since about July of this year.

Supposedly the Poker room is going self-contained after the first of the year and dealers will keep their own tips.
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Old 11-11-2005, 04:53 PM
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Hmm ... then I was told the WRONG information when I was down there about the food situation.
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Old 11-12-2005, 02:49 AM
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I was there In September and the only food comp for poker was $8 a day at the snack bar. Also if you got a snack bar comp and didn't use it all you lost it, you couldn't just leave it on your card.
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Old 11-12-2005, 03:40 AM
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I was there In September and the only food comp for poker was $8 a day at the snack bar.

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$9 and you can use it at the buffet, Cleo's or Nero's Cafe on the fourth floor of the boat.
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