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Old 07-06-2005, 09:52 PM
TiltsMcFabulous TiltsMcFabulous is offline
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Default Theoretical preflop question re Q10 from BB

Let's say you are in the BB with Q-10o at a new table full of unknowns. The table seems pretty aggressive, but solid.

UTG calls, and an MP player raises. The CO cold calls, and the SB folds. You are in the BB with Q10o, and you can expect to get about 7.5-1 on your call if the UTG player calls (and you have no particular reason to suspect a limp RR).

Do you call or fold? How clear is the decision?

Thanks for any responses.

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Old 07-06-2005, 10:28 PM
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I call
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Old 07-06-2005, 10:50 PM
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Default Re: Theoretical preflop question re Q10 from BB

You've got the worst possible position and more than likely the worst hand. How are you going to make any money on this hand in the long run? I might try it if I had a read and I was up againts players I like being up against. You can make some money against these players because you get to check-raise when the flop hits you and you'll win your fair share in the long run.

I'd like to hear what others have to say.
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Old 07-06-2005, 10:56 PM
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Default Re: Theoretical preflop question re Q10 from BB

You call and play well post-flop, knowing you could be dominated if the action is heavy.
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Old 07-06-2005, 11:39 PM
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Thanks for the answers. More would be much appreciated.

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Old 07-06-2005, 11:42 PM
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You call and play well post-flop, knowing you could be dominated if the action is heavy.

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question answered.
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Old 07-06-2005, 11:46 PM
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You call and play well post-flop, knowing you could be dominated if the action is heavy.

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Are you certain?

The guys in small stakes are just killing me for making a call just like this, and I thought it was an absolute no brainer given the tremendous odds I was getting. Obviously I'd play very cautiously unless I hit a monster, but two high straight makers from the BB getting 7.5-1 seemed like a dead easy call to me at an aggressive table. I wanted to see what the really good players thought.

This was at a 5-10 game just fyi.

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Old 07-06-2005, 11:52 PM
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I think the skill levels of the players involved would have a big impact on this decision.
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Old 07-06-2005, 11:58 PM
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I think the skill levels of the players involved would have a big impact on this decision.

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Didn't seem that good. Typical lags, though I didn't have good reads at the time of the call.

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Old 07-07-2005, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: Theoretical preflop question re Q10 from BB

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You call and play well post-flop, knowing you could be dominated if the action is heavy.

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question answered.

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Are you certain?

The guys in small stakes are just killing me for making a call just like this, and I thought it was an absolute no brainer given the tremendous odds I was getting. Obviously I'd play very cautiously unless I hit a monster, but two high straight makers from the BB getting 7.5-1 seemed like a dead easy call to me at an aggressive table. I wanted to see what the really good players thought.

This was at a 5-10 game just fyi.

~ Tilts

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You're getting killed because some may think you come off with an attitude. Be humble when people are trying to help you.


I'll see if I can anything of substance tomorrow. But I am not a good strategy poster.
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