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Re: AQs in SB
"I am utterly supprised you played AQs there."
Yeah, I know, I should tighten up from the blinds. :-) |
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Re: AQs in SB
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[ QUOTE ] Hi Tommy, why did u call the flop with no flush or backdoor flush draw, no pair, only one overcard, and when 2 people have shown significant strength preflop? [/ QUOTE ] With 20:1 pot odds, how often do you have to be convinced that a turned A is no good in order for you to continue? I do feel that the preflop call was bad, but the flop call was ok. Garland [/ QUOTE ] I think it is safe to assume one of the other 5 players is holding an ace. If this is so, he's trying to spike a 2 outer, which may be no good. So he's more than a 22-1 shot to spike. Then considering he might be drawing dead already (to a set or a better A, or a hand with an ace that already hit its kicker). We also need to consider the times he spikes and someone with a river redraw hits and he still loses, but now loses even more bets. I don't think this is a +EV call. And I'm utterly shocked by the notion that there is a situation where I'm tigher than Tommy. -Scott |
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Re: AQs in SB
And I'm utterly shocked by the notion that there is a situation where I'm tigher than Tommy.
Hi Sobe, I am also shocked by this, since you were advocating 3 betting preflop (from MP) with A,Q off vs. an ep raiser and a cold caller. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] I couldn't believe that look on your face when I folded that hand yesterday. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] LGPG Babe [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] |
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And I'm utterly shocked by the notion that there is a situation where I'm tigher than Tommy. Hi Sobe, I am also shocked by this, since you were advocating 3 betting preflop (from MP) with A,Q off vs. an ep raiser and a cold caller. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] I couldn't believe that look on your face when I folded that hand yesterday. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] LGPG Babe [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Hiya Babe! Great to see u again [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] What a great day, seeing you and meeting Tommy and the Meister all within 10 feet of each other. Yes, I was shocked. I'm 3 betting there against those donks with AQo 100% of the time. Frankly, I think folding there is way too tight. but tommy's spot is quite diff with a 3bet already out there. I'd call preflop as he did, but check-fold the flop for sure. -Scott |
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Re: AQs in SB
HI Sobe,
Ya, I think you would have folded that K high flop there, just as I would. But of course, I am a folding station [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] It was great to see you as well. Sorry we couldn't get into the same game so we could have really put on a folding clinic. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] LGPG Babe [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] |
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"Yeah, I know, I should tighten up from the blinds. :-)"
youre joking but we're all serious. that preflop call is horrible. |
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Re: AQs in SB
hi tommy
kapow! lightening. feeder band from hurricane dennis. i almost turned off, but posting is fun. so i post. kapow! more lightening. listen to that wind. dennis must be gaining strength. just wanted to tell you that you made an excellent fold. i said i just....forget it. i'll tell you later. bye for now. |
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Re: AQs in SB
Seriously Tommy,
You gotta keep playing and stop rushing upstairs to write this stuff. It's -EV for you for every hand you miss. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] Lawrence |
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Re: AQs in SB
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HI Sobe, Ya, I think you would have folded that K high flop there, just as I would. But of course, I am a folding station [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] It was great to see you as well. Sorry we couldn't get into the same game so we could have really put on a folding clinic. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] LGPG Babe [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] U missed my play at my table. I put on a raising clinic and scooped pot after pot, until I started getting the table to 3 bet me with ATo, KJo, and other "premium" hands. Unfortunately thats when my buddy showed up and I had to leave [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I think the real turning point in their opinion of me was when I called a raise in the SB with 44, (4 handed) called the flop and turn (3-handed) bets, then when the river was checked through, I tossed a blue chip to the dealer, said 'ship it, tabled my little pair, and scooped the pot. They didn't like me much after that. -Scott |
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Re: AQs in SB
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] HI Sobe, Ya, I think you would have folded that K high flop there, just as I would. But of course, I am a folding station [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] It was great to see you as well. Sorry we couldn't get into the same game so we could have really put on a folding clinic. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] LGPG Babe [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] U missed my play at my table. I put on a raising clinic and scooped pot after pot, until I started getting the table to 3 bet me with ATo, KJo, and other "premium" hands. Unfortunately thats when my buddy showed up and I had to leave [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I think the real turning point in their opinion of me was when I called a raise in the SB with 44, (4 handed) called the flop and turn (3-handed) bets, then when the river was checked through, I tossed a blue chip to the dealer, said 'ship it, tabled my little pair, and scooped the pot. They didn't like me much after that. -Scott [/ QUOTE ] You have any details on this...sounds awesome. (this is something Ive been trying to work on, when to call down with low-mid-ish pocket pairs) |
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