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Old 12-28-2005, 03:12 PM
BluffTHIS! BluffTHIS! is offline
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Default Re: Is GWB exploiting a state of perpetual war to stifle internal diss

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How does invoking the name of Hitler invalidate his opinion?

I don't get why people say this.

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Because it goes to your credibility as a poster when you are constantly using sources that hold extreme views or draw extreme conclusions or make extreme comparisons. And since you should know this will be the reaction of even posters who generally are more likely to agree with your overall views, then that brings up the question of whether your post is sincere or rather intentional trolling.
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Old 12-28-2005, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: Is GWB exploiting a state of perpetual war to stifle internal diss

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How does invoking the name of Hitler invalidate his opinion?

I don't get why people say this.

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Because it goes to your credibility as a poster when you are constantly using sources that hold extreme views or draw extreme conclusions or make extreme comparisons. And since you should know this will be the reaction of even posters who generally are more likely to agree with your overall views, then that brings up the question of whether your post is sincere or rather intentional trolling.

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Why does having opinions that are unpopular or not widely held automatically make you a troll? Or similarly, why does merely citing someone who shares your not-widely-held views make you a troll?

I don't understand; is bringing up anything controversial trolling? That's what I seem to be gathering from you and BCPVP.
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Old 12-28-2005, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: Is GWB exploiting a state of perpetual war to stifle internal diss

No one is saying that this post constitutes an instant troll label. It's the general tone and content of almost all his posts here that makes it so. This is just further evidence. Even though I don't agree with you on just about everything, I still don't consider you a troll, DVaut.
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Old 12-28-2005, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: Is GWB exploiting a state of perpetual war to stifle internal diss

They only attack me because I am such an effective arguer.

They can't dispute my statements so they go after my character. They are used to the faux news dem-punching bags like Colmes.
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Old 12-28-2005, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: Is GWB exploiting a state of perpetual war to stifle internal diss

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Why does having opinions that are unpopular or not widely held automatically make you a troll? Or similarly, why does merely citing someone who shares your not-widely-held views make you a troll?

I don't understand; is bringing up anything controversial trolling? That's what I seem to be gathering from you and BCPVP.

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Obviously in this forum over all others, the line between trolling and merely holding an unpopular opinion is going to be very blurry. As an example, when someone espouses opinions say that are exremely and blatantly racist or uses sources that are, there is not only the possibility that such a poster is just a nutjob, but also more likely that he doesn't really believe those views and is just trying to stir things up in a forum where they are always stirred up anyway.

And regarding the OP's post and criticisms of his using sources that compare a president he doesn't like to Hitler, how would you feel if I used sources comparing a leftwing politician to Lenin? Trying to paint a politician and his views as exremely radical one way or the other is usually just a case of political hackjob demagoguery by a person who only cares about persuading others to his views and doesn't care if he uses false sources or misleading conclusions to do so, in addition to perhaps not having a firm grasp of logic in the first place.
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Old 12-28-2005, 03:54 PM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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Default Re: Is GWB exploiting a state of perpetual war to stifle internal diss

How does invoking the name of Hitler invalidate his opinion?

Because it's hyperbolic and completely innacurate. The Nazi reference is so overused that those who use it only serve to minimize the true enormity of Nazi Germany.

Then there's the Jewish thing. Calling the President who is the staunchest supporter of Israel in US History "Hitler-like" is so laughable that I fear I demean myself for even lowering myself to answer.
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Old 12-28-2005, 03:57 PM
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He didnt call him hitler-like, he called his tactic of using an unending war to stifle internal dissent hitler-like, which is true.

GWB loves the Jewish state because it is a prerequisite for the rapture. what happens to the Jews during the rapture anyway?
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Old 12-28-2005, 04:15 PM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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Default Re: Is GWB exploiting a state of perpetual war to stifle internal diss

GWB loves the Jewish state because it is a prerequisite for the rapture. what happens to the Jews during the rapture anyway?

Well, hold on a minute. Some Christian fundies support Israel for that reason, true, but it's a stretch to sat that Dubya does. More likely he supports israel because they're the only true republic in the region, but I guess that doesn't fit your Weltanschauung.

As for what happens to Jews in the event of the Rapture, I believe devout Jews, like devout Christians get whisked up to the firmament while the rest of us sinners have to stay here and deal with the tribulation.

But why trust the word of an avowed unbeliever like me. I'd suggest you try Rapture Ready instead. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 12-28-2005, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: Is GWB exploiting a state of perpetual war to stifle internal diss

Just a quick question, what happens in 2008, when Bush doesn't win reelection, to all the "dictator for life" and "tyranny" people? Do they still insist that GWB, the man they call an idiot, is somehow pulling the strings on the nation even when out of office?
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Old 12-28-2005, 03:30 PM
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Just a quick question, what happens in 2008, when Bush doesn't win reelection, to all the "dictator for life" and "tyranny" people? Do they still insist that GWB, the man they call an idiot, is somehow pulling the strings on the nation even when out of office?

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GWB does not pull any strings. The monied elite pull the strings and he moves.
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