hand reading exercise

[eviljeff]

I am BB

[numeri]

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1.)Reads on yourself? I don't know how you play, so I'm going to keep it safe and say TT+, AT+, KJ+, QJ+, JT+.
2.)MP1's reads and PF cap say he's holding 77-AA, A8+, KT+, QT+ or JT+.

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These are way too loose.

[aces_dad]

Agreed, he will 3bet pf with big suited broadway not little ones and villian's pfr of 7ish does not cap with anything less than big PP's and big suited broadway.

[eviljeff]

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4) what is my final range of hands?

AQ. Anything else, I think you played it poorly. (You should have bet the turn with anything stronger.


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what about something weaker like K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]? you included this in my pf 3bet range.
also, why would I want to bet AK into any of villain's hands (AA-JJ, AK)?

[Rickjohn]

1. AA-QQ, AKs
2.AA-99, AKs-AQs, AK-AQ
3.QQ
4.QQ
5.QQ, JJ, 99

[eviljeff]

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2.AA-99, AKs-AQs, AK-AQ


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given villain's PFR% as 7.7, I think 99 (especially since he capped) is unreasonable.

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I am BB

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OK, thanks.

[Rickjohn]

right!

[numeri]

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4) what is my final range of hands?

AQ. Anything else, I think you played it poorly. (You should have bet the turn with anything stronger.


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what about something weaker like K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]? you included this in my pf 3bet range.
also, why would I want to bet AK into any of villain's hands (AA-JJ, AK)?

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I thought about KQs, but not long enough! KQ[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] is an option as well. How many outs do you give yourself (theoretically) on the flop with KQ[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?

If you have specifically AK, you are definitely either WA or WB. However, they are not equally likely. On the flop, villain could have:

AA - 1 way
KK - 3 ways
QQ - 6 ways
JJ - 6 ways
AK - 1 way

So if you have specifically AK, this is not a WA/WB line. You are way ahead of 12 hands, way behind 4, and split with one. Since you're ahead of so many hands that might call the bet, you don't want to give them the free card. Either QQ or JJ would also be tempted to call a turn bet with GSD.

[MrWookie47]

1. TT+, AQ, AK. This guy isn't PFRing much, so I wouldn't like to be 3betting 99, KQs or AJs against him, especially after the cold caller. I hope these aren't in your range.

2. JJ+, AK. He's fairly passive. It might even be QQ+, AKs.

4. I hope you're not getting cute w/ AA, KK, or AK. I hope you'd fold TT, and you should probably toss JJ. That leaves AQ and a much less likely QQ, since you might toss that, too.

5. Almost certainly AQ.

6. Almost certainly QQ, maybe JJ.

To add: This post wasn't particularly tough, but I really like the way you did it. Having people start with a range of hands that narrows can be much more instructive than just asking people to name that hand.