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#1
11-16-2005, 08:27 PM
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KK, OOP
I'm not going to flood the front page with hands, but wanted to post another KK hand where I was OOP. Last post today.
With this board, would you consider c/r'ing the turn after villains called on the flop? Party Poker 0.15/0.30 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. 2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, 2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, CO raises</font>, 1 fold</font>, Hero 3-bets</font>, 1 fold</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls. Flop: (11 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)</font> Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls. Turn: (7 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)</font> Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, CO folds. River: (9 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)</font> Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls. Final Pot: 11 BB 
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#2
11-16-2005, 08:37 PM
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Re: KK, OOP
nope, this is standard
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#3
11-16-2005, 08:38 PM
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Re: KK, OOP
not here.
that is not a card you want to check. if CO has AK/AJ you really do not want to give a free card here. he also may be slowplaying a Q, so when someone actually bets here, you're more often getting bets in against better hands. mostly pull the sexy heads up against really stupid lags.
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#5
11-16-2005, 09:00 PM
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Re: KK, OOP
* grunch
I bet this all the way. You are likely to get called down by an A high or even less at this limit. No reasons to check raise the turn card. Someone may have caught a draw, and will call you if you bet. There is no guarantee that they will bet an inferior hand, so bet for value.
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#7
11-16-2005, 10:08 PM
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Re: KK, OOP
Try this link: What's Grunching
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#9
11-17-2005, 12:16 AM
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Re: KK, OOP
[ QUOTE ]
Try this link: What's Grunching [/ QUOTE ] So how is this term used? When you say, grunch, are you saying that you have not read any other responses, and you are trying to explain it (correct or not) from your point of view? Is that how the term is used?
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#10
11-17-2005, 01:13 AM
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Re: KK, OOP
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Try this link: What's Grunching [/ QUOTE ] So how is this term used? When you say, grunch, are you saying that you have not read any other responses, and you are trying to explain it (correct or not) from your point of view? Is that how the term is used? [/ QUOTE ] I use the term grunch as you described it. I recently re-read grunchcan's post and decided to take grunching more seriously, and to use it to improve my game. My advice when I grunch will usually be more detailed as I am looking to identify areas of the game that I don't understand correctly. Why writing "grunch" at the top? Just to make it clear that I welcome feedback positive/negative, and that I am using the post as an exercise.
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