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Old 08-21-2005, 01:44 PM
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Default Folding AA here?

We are playing a $24+2 satellite to a WPT event. Top 4 spots get the $12,500 prize package and all else essentially gets zip. Here are the stacks:

UTG: $10,495
UTG+1: $9,505
Villian: $42,600
Hero: $39,000
Small Blind: $38,000
Big Blind: $40,400

Blinds are 500/1,000 with an ante of 100.
The early players fold and Villian moves all-in.
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Old 08-21-2005, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: Folding AA here?

I'm curious why people voted as they did...
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Old 08-21-2005, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: Folding AA here?

UTG: $10,495
UTG+1: $9,505
Villian: $42,600
Hero: $39,000
Small Blind: $38,000
Big Blind: $40,400
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Old 08-21-2005, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: Folding AA here?

The biggest question is why would villain put his stack on the line for a measly 2100 in chips when there's 3 people to act behind him that can cripple his stack. How has he played so far? What has he gone all in with?

I'd 100% call with AA, but that might be the only hand I call with at this stage. If you double up, get up and walk away from the table because you're going to the WPT.
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Old 08-21-2005, 02:54 PM
wegs the wegs wegs the wegs is offline
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Default Re: Folding AA here?

AA and nothing else. The way I figure it is that with AA, I'm at least an 80% favorite (using very rough odds) on whatever he is pushing with, except for AA. Either way my tournament is over here, 80% of the time with a seat and 20% fuming.

Basically the difference between calling or folding with AA in that spot if I fold with AA here, am I sure that I can outlast both short stacks at least 80% of the time?
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Old 08-21-2005, 03:05 PM
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Default Re: Folding AA here?

I think it far more likely that Big stack has decided to throw his weight around and is looking to double you up. I voted AA-QQ, AK. We can still use a little more equity here. Two players still have to bust out. I highly doubt it will be the two short stacks.

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Old 08-21-2005, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: Folding AA here?

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I think it far more likely that Big stack has decided to throw his weight around and is looking to double you up. I voted AA-QQ, AK. We can still use a little more equity here. Two players still have to bust out. I highly doubt it will be the two short stacks.

CSC

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I'm folding AK here. I can find better spots.

-Scott
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Old 08-21-2005, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: Folding AA here?

I'm calling with AA and KK, and tossing everything else. I'd hate tossing QQ here, for that matter, and AKs would be a bummer to toss, too. But AA and KK for me, and everything else gets mucked.
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Old 08-21-2005, 03:18 PM
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Default Re: Folding AA here?

I'd definitely play AA, maybe KK.
24+2 for a 12,500 package? Where was this and how many entrants?
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Old 08-21-2005, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: Folding AA here?

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I'm calling with AA and KK, and tossing everything else. I'd hate tossing QQ here, for that matter, and AKs would be a bummer to toss, too. But AA and KK for me, and everything else gets mucked.

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I completely agree. But I **MIGHT** make the call with QQ if my read on villian (based on past play) is he more likely has a smaller PP than AK.

-Scott
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