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#11
12-05-2005, 06:44 PM
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Re: TPTK OOP against a very strong player
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[ QUOTE ] a push just looks like you're an idiot with KJ. [/ QUOTE ] So... we get value from KQ and....... I think a push here lets him play perfectly against you unless he has like KxQ[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], then he might make a loose call. [/ QUOTE ] i don't understand the "lets him play perfectly against you". i'm reading this as he will only call with a hand that beats AK...am i right Jim? i think he calls with QQ here. i'm actually highly interested in this hand. what was your turn line? 
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#12
12-05-2005, 06:47 PM
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Re: TPTK OOP against a very strong player
OK, so Hero decides to check the turn. Villain checks behind..?
River: As Hero checks again, villain bets $150, Hero? Do you check the river? Do you call the bet? Why?
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#13
12-05-2005, 06:48 PM
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Re: TPTK OOP against a very strong player
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i'm reading this as he will only call with a hand that beats AK...am i right Jim? [/ QUOTE ] You are. [ QUOTE ] i think he calls with QQ here. [/ QUOTE ] I think he never calls with QQ here.
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#14
12-05-2005, 07:15 PM
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Re: TPTK OOP against a very strong player
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[ QUOTE ] i'm reading this as he will only call with a hand that beats AK...am i right Jim? [/ QUOTE ] You are. [ QUOTE ] i think he calls with QQ here. [/ QUOTE ] I think he never calls with QQ here. [/ QUOTE ] OK. However, I'd like to know Hero's image here. If hero is seen as tight, a push would have large FE even against a SC of hearts. and if you tell me it doesn't have FE against the SC of hearts then its just as bad as calling with QQ on that board...so in essence it would be a WA/WB situation for Zephyr.
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#15
12-05-2005, 07:24 PM
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Re: TPTK OOP against a very strong player
Hero's image is probably fairly tight.
You're off here. He is never calling allin with QQ, and he is never folding a flush.
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#16
12-05-2005, 07:29 PM
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Re: TPTK OOP against a very strong player
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Hero's image is probably fairly tight. You're off here. He is never calling allin with QQ, and he is never folding a flush. [/ QUOTE ] ok i'll let it go
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#17
12-05-2005, 07:32 PM
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Re: TPTK OOP against a very strong player
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OK, so Hero decides to check the turn. Villain checks behind..? River: As Hero checks again, villain bets $150, Hero? Do you check the river? Do you call the bet? Why? [/ QUOTE ] I would call here.
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#18
12-05-2005, 07:36 PM
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Re: TPTK OOP against a very strong player
Check call looks good.
I'm still worried about the range I gave earlier, and we haven't improved against any of it. OTOH, he's giving you nice pot odds, and you have top two. I think he's donking it up enough that you can pay him off. Maybe you could find a fold... but I doubt it. You're probably chopping.
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