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Old 09-28-2004, 01:46 AM
NLfool NLfool is offline
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Default Re: Does Phil Hellmuth deserve to be at the PSI over TJ Cloutier?

not to knock on TJ as he's one of the classiest players but TJ players just about any tourny of note and on sheer volume alone he should more major wins
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Old 09-28-2004, 05:29 AM
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Default Re: Does Phil Hellmuth deserve to be at the PSI over TJ Cloutier?

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I'd rather see TJ and Phil. I loved their moment at the TOC:

TJ: "OK, I could use an ace here."
Phil: "I mucked an Ace."
TJ: "Yeah, I really needed to know that, Phil."

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IIRC, it was a six (or some other low card) not an ace.
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Old 09-28-2004, 10:33 AM
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Default Re: Does Phil Hellmuth deserve to be at the PSI over TJ Cloutier?

This sounds like a false choice to me, but whatever...

The PSI table is 8-handed, so there was easily room for one more...
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Old 09-28-2004, 10:52 AM
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Default Re: Does Phil Hellmuth deserve to be at the PSI over TJ Cloutier?

NO! Only because I an tired of the sore loser. Enuff!

His act grew olde in a hurry!

peace,
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Old 09-28-2004, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: Does Phil Hellmuth deserve to be at the PSI over TJ Cloutier?

After reading Cloutier's book and then hellmuths i would rather see cloutier, i would rather see a tough player than a good but full of himself phil.
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Old 09-28-2004, 12:35 PM
2unlucky2win 2unlucky2win is offline
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Default Is the PSI held at a library?

"After reading Cloutier's book and then hellmuths i would rather see cloutier..."

Cloutier might know everything there is about poker, but he made an absolutely novice mistake at a crucial point in the Fox tourney finals against Gus Hansen. No doubt Cloutier is a legedary player, but the subtlety of most of his plays doesnt translate to the boob tube. Phil is a cartoon character and seems to attract bad beats, but theres no other player who is more watchable.
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Old 09-28-2004, 01:18 PM
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Default Re: Does Phil Hellmuth deserve to be at the PSI over TJ Cloutier?

phil deserves to be there

TJ deserves to be there

i could have done without gus hansen... he's had a good run, but i think he needs to play longer to earn a seat at that table... not saying he's a bad player, or not on those guys' level, but hellmuth's been doing it for 15 years, hansen what, 3?
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Old 09-28-2004, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: Does Phil Hellmuth deserve to be at the PSI over TJ Cloutier?

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This sounds like a false choice to me, but whatever...

The PSI table is 8-handed, so there was easily room for one more...

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah, but was there anyone else willing to pony up $400k? That's quite a big buy-in, overlay or not.
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Old 09-28-2004, 02:24 PM
TStoneMBD TStoneMBD is offline
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Default Hellmuth >>>> J Chan *nm*

nm
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Old 09-28-2004, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: Phil Hellmuth does deserve to be at the PSI over...

Gus Hansen. in fact, i don't think Gus deserves to be there at all, especially when you compare his accomplishments to the others. Gus's invite, IMO, is mostly due to his recent popularity.
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