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#21
11-18-2005, 01:53 PM
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Re: Pocket Jacks in SB facing a 3 bet. Call or fold?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] In Microlimits, there is no way im folding this, unless i have specific reads on the players who raise. Im either calling or capping. Probably capping. [/ QUOTE ] I don't understand this "in microlimits" stuff. Microlimits are passive. If you're not folding it at .5/1 then you're not folding it anywhere. [/ QUOTE ] In Microlimits people make very bad plays preflop. [/ QUOTE ] The most common bad plays they make are A) calling when they should fold B) calling when they should raise Raising & 3-betting with junk is a rare mistake made by a rare player that is no more common at .5/1 than it is anywhere else. 
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#22
11-18-2005, 01:54 PM
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Re: Pocket Jacks in SB facing a 3 bet. Call or fold?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] In Microlimits, there is no way im folding this, unless i have specific reads on the players who raise. Im either calling or capping. Probably capping. [/ QUOTE ] I don't understand this "in microlimits" stuff. Microlimits are passive. If you're not folding it at .5/1 then you're not folding it anywhere. [/ QUOTE ] In Microlimits people make very bad plays preflop. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, like only 3-betting with QQ-AA
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#23
11-18-2005, 01:55 PM
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Re: Pocket Jacks in SB facing a 3 bet. Call or fold?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] In Microlimits, there is no way im folding this, unless i have specific reads on the players who raise. Im either calling or capping. Probably capping. [/ QUOTE ] I don't understand this "in microlimits" stuff. Microlimits are passive. If you're not folding it at .5/1 then you're not folding it anywhere. [/ QUOTE ] In Microlimits people make very bad plays preflop. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, like only 3-betting with QQ-AA [/ QUOTE ] this post is much better than mine - touche.
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#24
11-18-2005, 01:59 PM
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Re: Pocket Jacks in SB facing a 3 bet. Call or fold?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] In Microlimits, there is no way im folding this, unless i have specific reads on the players who raise. Im either calling or capping. Probably capping. [/ QUOTE ] I don't understand this "in microlimits" stuff. Microlimits are passive. If you're not folding it at .5/1 then you're not folding it anywhere. [/ QUOTE ] In Microlimits people make very bad plays preflop. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, like only 3-betting with QQ-AA [/ QUOTE ] That's odd, usually i find a lot of superagressive players at these limits whose range of 3betting is much much wider than that, probably just me and my luck though.
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#25
11-18-2005, 02:16 PM
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Re: Pocket Jacks in SB facing a 3 bet. Call or fold?
No one has yet mentioned just calling to see if the original PFR caps or just calls. I like that the best.
Without a solid read, i'm never folding here.
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#28
11-18-2005, 02:32 PM
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Re: Pocket Jacks in SB facing a 3 bet. Call or fold?
The 3-better is on the button. His 3-betting range is much wider than AA-QQ. I would say, AA-TT, (even 99 for some players), AKs-AJs, KQs, AK, and maybe AQo if he's bad, (this is the micro's, right?)
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#29
11-18-2005, 02:53 PM
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Re: Pocket Jacks in SB facing a 3 bet. Call or fold?
I have never played .5/1 so take this fwiw but this is a pretty read based decision but its between capping and calling without a read. All this fold your dominated or this can't be played profitably is wrong IMO. We have one of the best starting hands and great relative position on the pre flop 3-bettor. If the flop is bad for us we should be able to get away from this pot pretty easily. If we get a good flop there is a strong chance we will have the best hand. Then there is the rare times we are dominated and lose some chips it happens. If you want to fold this because you just sat down and don't want get into a marginal situation until you have a better read on the players at he table fine but this "your dominated and can't play this profitably" is nonsense.
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#30
11-18-2005, 03:07 PM
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Re: Pocket Jacks in SB facing a 3 bet. Call or fold?
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Assuming no reads, I'd go to my default play which is playing super tight after a 3-bet. (that means fold) In fact, even if I knew these players to be loose and wacky, even donks can pick up big hands, and playing a relatively weak pocket pair out of position spells -EV. [/ QUOTE ] "Relatively weak pocket pair" Wha?
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