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Did My Opponent Make The Mistake, Or Did I?
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$25 Buy-In 210 Players Top 30 getting paid We are currently at 33 players My opponent has 3200 in chips, I have 2600. At other tables there are some shorter stacks that we can probably wait out. Blinds at 150/300 Opponent is UTG with A/J offsuit and limps in. I'm next to act and have 9/9 and push all-in. Folded to the limper, who calls my push? He's certainly not pot-committed, and this close to the bubble, why should he risk becoming too short-stacked to make the money with a hand that is a coin flip AT BEST, and otherwise completely dominated? The only hand my opponent has seen me play is an all-in push with 3/3 where I was very short-stacked, it was re-raised by another short-stack to isolate me with his A/10 and I flopped a set vs. him hitting his 10, and I went from 1300 chips to 3,000. Anyway, I could have just squeeked into the money too, but I was playing to win, and figured this close to the bubble my opponents would fold. I'm happy with his call, since I was ahead, but he spiked his ace and I was out, 3 measly spots from the money (I had just finished 2 spots from the money in a previous tourney, which kinda hurt) Just making the money in this netted $40, while first place was $1,400. So, should I have folded? Should I have limped with position on him? Or was my push correct and his call incorrect given our stack sizes and closeness to the money (and the liklihood that he's coin flipping or dominated?) |
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Re: Did My Opponent Make The Mistake, Or Did I?
Most times, you'll win this battle. I don't think you made an error here. At worst, you're a 4-1 dog if he has an overpair. But it didn't seem like he did when he limped. I personally believe he made the mistake as A3 is not better than a lot of hands.
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Re: Did My Opponent Make The Mistake, Or Did I?
I like your play. Your opponent should not have called w/AJ.
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Re: Did My Opponent Make The Mistake, Or Did I?
Wow, there is a speck of dirt on my monitor which made that appear as A3. I see now, that it is AJ.
I still think you made the right move here. Calling with AJ in hopes of a coin flip is a bit loose, but I don't think it's that horrible of a call. Although, most people should know better about AJ. :P Time to clean monitor as well. |
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Re: Did My Opponent Make The Mistake, Or Did I?
Thanks guys, I knew I was giving my opponents too much credit when I expected them to actually think and make smart plays this close to the money.
It's amazing the amount of min-raisers you find online. They'll min-raise with anything, from any position. Bunch of limpers, someone in the SB or BB, out of position will min-raise, it's hilarious. Then again, I've seen many a donk turn his 1K into 4K very early in these tournaments with their crazy play, and blow it all about twenty spots from the money. :P |
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Re: Did My Opponent Make The Mistake, Or Did I?
You played it fine. Calling your push with AJ is indeed loose, but it happens frequently. Don't worry about that.
Good aggressive push on the bubble here. Well played. |
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Re: Did My Opponent Make The Mistake, Or Did I?
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You played it fine. Calling your push with AJ is indeed loose, but it happens frequently. Don't worry about that. Good aggressive push on the bubble here. Well played. [/ QUOTE ] You know I'd NEVER make such a move against your dreaded 5/5 limp, I'd just fold outright. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Looking forward to the $100 game, you and me, heads-up, this time I take 1st place..... [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] |
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Re: Did My Opponent Make The Mistake, Or Did I?
I don't like your play at all. I'm always suspicious when a bigger stack limps in early position...and even more so UTG. You need a premium hand to push at this point. Maybe the guy thought he was slowplaying his AJ thinking that someone would inevitably raise and try to steal the blinds in this aggressive situation. There ARE players like that out there! I much prefer to be the first into the pot in bubble situations.
So what if you're slightly ahead in the hand? 46% of the time you get busted out of the money and 54% of the time you're very likely to make money. I'm sure that turns out to be -$EV if someone would like to confirm. OK, your opponent made a mistake by calling your all in, but I very much doubt he's a 2+2er so you always have to keep that in mind. |
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Re: Did My Opponent Make The Mistake, Or Did I?
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I don't like your play at all. I'm always suspicious when a bigger stack limps in early position...and even more so UTG. You need a premium hand to push at this point. Maybe the guy thought he was slowplaying his AJ thinking that someone would inevitably raise and try to steal the blinds in this aggressive situation. There ARE players like that out there! I much prefer to be the first into the pot in bubble situations. So what if you're slightly ahead in the hand? 46% of the time you get busted out of the money and 54% of the time you're very likely to make money. I'm sure that turns out to be -$EV if someone would like to confirm. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree with a couple of things here, but that may be because I'm assuming the OP's goal is more than just making the money. We're very shortstacked for this point of the tourney. Limping into the money seems like giving up. UTG limps. We're next to act. We obviously can't call, since we're out of position and a limp will invite a raise from our left. So you're saying we should fold here? Seems too weak to me. Look at what pushing accomplished. We got all our money in with the best hand. We cleaned up everything behind us and it's now back to UTG who has to decide whether or not to call with a vulnerable hand. I, for one, don't like to call off 2/3 of my stack with a hand this weak. Now he has to decide whether he essentially wants to risk his tourney on a coinflip this close to the money. UTG made a bad decision and it worked out for him. These things happen. But the bubble is a perfect time to push a middle pair like 99 precisely because many players are thinking just like you: if I pass, I can limp into the dough. Even if we do get called on our all in, we're likely the favorite (albeit by a small margin). To each his own, I suppose. I still like OP's push here. |
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Re: Did My Opponent Make The Mistake, Or Did I?
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I don't like your play at all. I'm always suspicious when a bigger stack limps in early position...and even more so UTG. You need a premium hand to push at this point. Maybe the guy thought he was slowplaying his AJ thinking that someone would inevitably raise and try to steal the blinds in this aggressive situation. There ARE players like that out there! I much prefer to be the first into the pot in bubble situations. So what if you're slightly ahead in the hand? 46% of the time you get busted out of the money and 54% of the time you're very likely to make money. I'm sure that turns out to be -$EV if someone would like to confirm. OK, your opponent made a mistake by calling your all in, but I very much doubt he's a 2+2er so you always have to keep that in mind. [/ QUOTE ] FE? You cannot play scared of every EP limp. Regards, Woodguy |
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