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11-28-2005, 09:59 PM
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Re: This is how real men play KK
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An ace normally check-calls or check-raises. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know. I've never been in a live low limit game where a c/r on the flop was normal. I'd estimate the bettor has worse than an ace 65% of the time, and the combined probability of no ace in 3 random hands is also around 65%. Since their hands should be at least slightly better than random, lets bring that % down to 50. That leaves you good on the flop .50 * .65 = 33% of the time. Do as you wish. You are getting 1:9 on a call and 2:9 +/- implied on a raise. EDIT: 1:11 or 2:11. Missed two sbs If the table is passive enough, I might raise and check behind to get to the river for two small bets. If it is a bit more aggressive I'd probably muck as you did. 
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#12
11-28-2005, 10:05 PM
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Re: This is how real men play KK
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[ QUOTE ] An ace normally check-calls or check-raises. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know. I've never been in a live low limit game where a c/r on the flop was normal. I'd estimate the bettor has worse than an ace 65% of the time, and the combined probability of no ace in 3 random hands is also around 65%. Since their hands should be at least slightly better than random, lets bring that % down to 50. That leaves you good on the flop .50 * .65 = 33% of the time. Do as you wish. You are getting 1:9 on a call and 2:9 +/- implied on a raise. If the table is passive enough, I might raise and check behind to get to the river for two small bets. If it is a bit more aggressive I'd probably muck as you did. [/ QUOTE ] Raising the flop and then checking behind the turn with a made hand that has little chance of improving is almost never correct. In fact, it makes me vomit a little. I see poor low limit players do this all the time: they don't want to risk a lot so they try this kind of raise-check line, not realizing that if they have enough equity to get to the river for 2 SB they usually have enough equity to get there for 2 BB and checking the turn can have disastrous consequences when you give a free card to beat you or miss out on value agianst a draw. In general, if I'm trying to get to the river cheap I either call down or raise the flop and bet the turn with the intent of checking the river behind. But this sort of raise the flop check the turn [censored] is generally just bad poker.
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#13
11-28-2005, 10:13 PM
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Re: This is how real men play KK
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But this sort of raise the flop check the turn [censored] is generally just bad poker. [/ QUOTE ] Bad advice on my part I guess. Although I could see myself taking either line depending on how many callers I get, and whether or not I turn a draw.
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#14
11-28-2005, 10:38 PM
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Re: This is how real men play KK
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Raising the flop and then checking behind the turn with a made hand that has little chance of improving is almost never correct. In fact, it makes me vomit a little. [/ QUOTE ] This should be stickied here and in Micros.
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#15
11-29-2005, 01:18 AM
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Re: This is how real men play KK
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] what do you think the limper is betting into pfr with an A on the flop? [/ QUOTE ] This is terrible. This is usually a bluff or a semi-bluff. An ace normally check-calls or check-raises. You are playing poker, ya know. [/ QUOTE ] It's not terrible. You've obviously never played 3/6 live. [/ QUOTE ] You're right, I haven't played 3/6 live. It's still a bad fold though without a specific read that the bettor is passive and doesn't "bluff-rep," as I call it.
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