Give me his hand range

jdl22 · #1 11-03-2005, 05:31 PM

Following Josh.'s (not sure how the punctuation works here) suggestion I'm curious what range you would put the villain on in this situation. I couldn't find enough cards that were favoralbe enough to warrant calling the turn but either way this is a fairly common situation villain raises or 3 bets preflop and keeps the pedal down. What range do you put them on?

edit: stats got deleted accidentally
66/32/2.6 stats loose and quite aggressive both pre and postflop.

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Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises, Button 3-bets,2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 5.70 BB

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Spicymoose · #2 11-03-2005, 05:47 PM

No reads on villain?

Um... AJs+, AQ+, KQs, 99+

jdl22 · #3 11-03-2005, 05:50 PM

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Had it but got caught with the good old back button post deletion.

66/32/2.6 stats loose and quite aggressive both pre and postflop.

Spicymoose · #4 11-03-2005, 05:54 PM

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Had it but got caught with the good old back button post deletion.

66/32/2.6 stats loose and quite aggressive both pre and postflop.

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Wow, quite a bit different. I have a harder time guessing his range here, but I would say...

A8s+, ATs+, KTs+, KQ+, QJs+, 77+.

luckyharr · #5 11-03-2005, 05:56 PM

Given that these stats are based on a decent number of hands, you should be capping preflop and showing down a lot of the time.

Against a normal TAG's 3-betting range (77-AA, AK-AJ, ATs, KQ, KJs or something like that) you are likely in trouble on the turn and I don't mind your fold.

#6 11-03-2005, 05:56 PM

Wow. I would play this guy as if his range was something like
A8s+, AT+, KJs+, KQ, and any PP.

This can all vary though obviously depending on more than his stats... is he a thinking player? Are you stealing often? Assuming "average" circumstances I would put him on some range like that...

luckyharr · #7 11-03-2005, 06:10 PM

Wanted to add... most players you would want to differentiate between his preflop three-betting range and his hand range based on the postflop play. In this case, they are the same since this player will continue to bet any hand until he is raised or his opponent folds.

Since I didn't give a range before, I think this player would 3-bet with...

Any Pair, Axs, A7+, QJ+, JTs+, KJ, KTs+

zephed · #8 11-03-2005, 09:27 PM

Cap preflop.

The way you played it you should call the turn at least.

EDIT: I'll post a range, give me a minute.