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Should I have pushed preflop?
To better my chances of stealing the blinds??
Primarily I just wanted to get in the money, not necessarily winning. ***** Hand History for Game 821709371 ***** 200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 5108602) - Sat Aug 07 05:14:52 EDT 2004 Table Table 11270 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button Total number of players : 4 Seat 2: moochiebpaul (1780) Seat 4: Profittt (720) Seat 8: glopp (2750) Seat 9: J_e_r_e_m_y (2750) glopp posts small blind (100) J_e_r_e_m_y posts big blind (200) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to Profittt [ Kh, Ad ] moochiebpaul folds. Profittt raises (400) to 400 glopp folds. J_e_r_e_m_y calls (200) ** Dealing Flop ** : [ As, Tc, 9s ] J_e_r_e_m_y bets (325) Profittt calls (320) Profittt is all-In. ** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qc ] ** Dealing River ** : [ 5c ] Creating Main Pot with $1540 with Profittt ** Summary ** Main Pot: 1540 | Side Pot 1: 5 Board: [ As Tc 9s Qc 5c ] moochiebpaul balance 1780, didn't bet (folded) Profittt balance 0, lost 720 [ Kh Ad ] [ a pair of aces -- Ad,As,Kh,Qc,Tc ] glopp balance 2650, lost 100 (folded) J_e_r_e_m_y balance 3570, bet 725, collected 1545, net +820 [ Jc 8s ] [ a straight, eight to queen -- Qc,Jc,Tc,9s,8s ] |
#2
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Re: Should I have pushed preflop?
If you have less than 10x the BB you need to either push or fold preflop.
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Re: Should I have pushed preflop?
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If you have less than 10x the BB you need to either push or fold preflop. [/ QUOTE ] But with what cards in the SB and the BB do you Push? |
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Re: Should I have pushed preflop?
Sorry I can't read these unconverted.......
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) UTG (t1780) Hero (t720) SB (t2750) BB (t2750) Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t400</font>, SB folds, BB calls t200. Flop: (t900) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font> <font color="CC3333">BB bets t325</font>, Hero calls t320 (All-In). Turn: (t1545) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font> River: (t1545) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font> Final Pot: t1545 |
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Re: Should I have pushed preflop?
You were a 2:1 favorite before the flop and a 2:1 favorite after the flop. In that sesne, it doesn't really matter when your money goes in. Do you want people to fold when you are short-stacked and a 2:1 favorite? I want to double up.
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Re: Should I have pushed preflop?
With aces or kings, raising 400 to entice a call from a bad opponent who doesn't realize you're pot committed might've been slightly better, but this is a push no matter what. Since you have to call on a flop of 762, you should be pushing to maximize the amount of times he folds.
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Re: Should I have pushed preflop?
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Do you want people to fold when you are short-stacked and a 2:1 favorite? I want to double up. [/ QUOTE ] If they're folding you need to be raising more often. |
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Re: Should I have pushed preflop?
why would you want to steal the blinds? i am happy to do so of course,but i also am not upset if i get called since i am short stacked and have to double up anyway. i go all in here everytime and if i am called i am not that upset. you will be surprised (if you play below the $30 level)how often you will be called by hands like your opponent had here.
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Re: Should I have pushed preflop?
Well, I guess I would have been satisfied just stealing the blinds. I know I was a 2:1 favorite, but even favorites loose, as in this case.
My thought process was something like: "Can I get the blinds for free, great. Can I double if I go to showdown, thats OK to." |
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Re: Should I have pushed preflop?
You should always be happy winning a pot. If you can stay alive by stealing blinds then several things happen:
1) You are more likely to be called when you push while way ahead and likely double up 2) When you don't get called you get more chips, making you less desirable to call on future hands (since when they lose you can take more chips from them) 3) You last longer giving another shortstack who isn't stealing a better chance to bust before you 4) When your opponent folds you have 0% chance of busting on that hand. AK vs. J8 allin preflop you have a 30% chance of busting on that hand. Which do you prefer? By letting someone see a cheap flop you give them a chance to see if they have a good chance to suck out on you. |
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