$11 - JJ UTG LVL2 (help settle a small dispute)

[playtitleist]

Settle a small dispute, what's your play? Please explain your thinking.

Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: Ready2Rumbo (915)
Seat 2: bakasama (1150)
Seat 4: LizardKing39 (1260)
Seat 5: pokrface69 (265)
Seat 6: gunit_g (730)
Seat 7: playtitleist (775)
Seat 9: Dr_Classic (1965)
Seat 10: rewagner78 (940)
pokrface69 posts small blind (15)
gunit_g posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to playtitleist [ Jh, Jd ]
playtitleist ???

[bluefeet]

Personally I'm a fan of raising. t100 will do. With any luck, shortie in the blinds will come over top - giving you an opportunity to isolate by pushing over a LP caller of your Or.

[zambonidrivr]

small raise or limp are fine here. pushing is retarded, and a big raise is worse.

explaination: its level 1 and you have a pair of jacks utg. u may be ahead now but good chance you won't be after the flop. it's an 11 and raising to 100 will get 5 callers. i think you can find better opportunites with your stack.

[zipppy]

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small raise or limp are fine here. pushing is retarded, and a big raise is worse.

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I agree, and if someone else pushes you can always dump the hand.

[tigerite]

Depends on the table, but mostly, I would raise to t90-100.

[jeffraider]

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Settle a small dispute, what's your play? Please explain your thinking.

Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: Ready2Rumbo (915)
Seat 2: bakasama (1150)
Seat 4: LizardKing39 (1260)
Seat 5: pokrface69 (265)
Seat 6: gunit_g (730)
Seat 7: playtitleist (775)
Seat 9: Dr_Classic (1965)
Seat 10: rewagner78 (940)
pokrface69 posts small blind (15)
gunit_g posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to playtitleist [ Jh, Jd ]
playtitleist ???

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I pop it to 100 and call a push behind me.

[IdiotVig]

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explaination: its level 1 and you have a pair of jacks utg. u may be ahead now but good chance you won't be after the flop. it's an 11 and raising to 100 will get 5 callers. i think you can find better opportunites with your stack.

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Well, it's level 2, and besides -- I don't understand why you'd want to play a premium hand for set value only OOP. Won't a good number of hands that can beat you after the flop fold to a moderate raise anyway? Or is that giving the 11s population too much credit?

[playtitleist]

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premium hand

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I think this is where the debate lies.

[zambonidrivr]

I think that's giving the 11's too much credit.

[zambonidrivr]

jacks are prem when you have 2-8x bb left and your on the bubble. they might as well be bullets. at this stage, they are a pair of jacks.