3 guys playing together in our home game.... - Page 4

Hextallin · #1 08-03-2005, 10:22 PM

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Does that say against those hands that KK loses 65% of the time?

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yes, and it says you quadruple your money 35% of the time

PokerGoblin · #2 08-03-2005, 04:34 PM

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I know they're splitting money.

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How do you know this? Did they tell you?

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They usu. don't bet each other if they're in the hand.

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So if only the three of them are in the hand they check it to the river? You need to be more clear on this.

Who is the host of the game? It's that person's responsibility to deal with the problem. If I weren't the host, I say either they go or I go. It sounds like collectively as a group you don't want them there, but you guys are afraid of calling them out.

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I need help, not insults.

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A lot of people have taken the time to try to help you with this and your getting defensive and giving incomplete information. There is a wealth of knowledge and experience in this forum, I'd suggest you listed to what people have to say.

PG

#3 08-03-2005, 04:47 PM

I know they're splitting money bc the others that go broke sit there and wait until the game is done. Then they all go outside and chat for a minute before leaving. That's pretty obvious.

PokerGoblin · #4 08-03-2005, 04:52 PM

Do they drive seperately or ride together?

AliasMrJones · #5 08-03-2005, 04:45 PM

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If you're going to throw me under the bus for mentioning that they're black, then throw Doyle Brunson under the bus too for what he says in Super System about them.

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Just because other people make racist comments as well doesn't make it right.

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I love those of you that think you could just come in and break them so easy. See what happens when you raise with KK, and you get calls with 46, A7, J10, and 23.

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See what happens? I make lots of money? Dude, you really don't know anything about the game. This is just another in a long line of "I can't beat the fish" posts. I know the answer -- move up to a higher stakes game.

Bulldog · #6 08-03-2005, 06:26 PM

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See what happens? I make lots of money? Dude, you really don't know anything about the game. This is just another in a long line of "I can't beat the fish" posts.

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Spot on. This is the most accurate thing posted in this thread.

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They just all call and your odds go to [censored].

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Odds - You don't understand what this word means.

KSOT · #7 08-04-2005, 03:05 PM

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If you're going to throw me under the bus for mentioning that they're black, then throw Doyle Brunson under the bus too for what he says in Super System about them.

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Can someone share this quote with me? Never read SS.

Anyway, you guys are overreacting about his comment. He was merely pointing out the differences between the supposed group of colluders and the usual crowd he plays with.

Sarge85 · #8 08-04-2005, 03:17 PM

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If you're going to throw me under the bus for mentioning that they're black, then throw Doyle Brunson under the bus too for what he says in Super System about them.

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Can someone share this quote with me? Never read SS.

Anyway, you guys are overreacting about his comment. He was merely pointing out the differences between the supposed group of colluders and the usual crowd he plays with.

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He points it out because he feels there is relevance.

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bdypdx · #9 08-04-2005, 03:28 PM

I think that norake12 needs to play in a public cardroom. He/she will find that it's one of the most diverse environments possible in the US today.

Where else can you go where you'll find all races, genders and ages in one place? Not only that, you can leave untold amounts of money sitting on a table, leave for dinner, then come back and your money is still there.

-bdy

doodle2 · #10 08-05-2005, 03:49 AM

I usually lurk elsewhere, but i wandered over to this forum and found this inspiring post. I'm sorry i dont have the patience to read all of the replies to this nonsense, but I;m going to try to give a complete answer - not because you'll listen, but because it'll make me feel better. Im trying to recover the brain cells that suicided when they read the OP.

"They usu. don't bet each other if they're in the hand. "

They're friends. They're there to have a good time. Of course they dont bet each other. I'm not saying that thats not marginally unethical, but it certainly doesnt do much to 'hide' the collusion you seem to see, which you would expect them to do. If these three guys are playing as badly as you describe, i would encourage them to almost anything they liked. I would offer them food and drink (weed too if you have it), i would try to make them feel welcome. You and your idiot cronies have decided that the most reasonable thing to do is cheat them. Brilliance.

"If one of us raises with a good hand, all of them call so that your odds go to crap. "

That isnt even close to how odds work. Yes, the more opponents you have the less likely it is that your hand, which is best preflop, will be the winner. Please search the forum for explanation of "EV." You 'odds' dont diminish when 3 players call your pf all in with AA, KK, QQ, JJ. Your odds of winning the pot diminish, but your EV increases. Once again, if three players call your all in when you have AA, KK, QQ you have MADE MONEY regardless of the outcome.

"I love those of you that think you could just come in and break them so easy. See what happens when you raise with KK, and you get calls with 46, A7, J10, and 23. You either get sucked out on or lose to 2 pr, a flush, or something f'd up."

You, sir, are an idiot. This just isnt how it works. I'd like you to go to www.pokerstove.com and put in those five hands and see what resuts you get. You may find them illuminating (then again, you may not be able to understand the results). In fact, you may find pokerstove to be a very interesting tool....or not.

Look. This has absolutely nothing to do with collusion. My guess is that this kind of beat or 5 way all-in situation happens maybe once a session, and it really pisses you off. Then you spew chips. Stop spewing and you'll stop losing. If these players are as bad as you describe, who the hell cares if they split up the money at the end of the night. Three donkeys on the same bankroll are still three broke donkeys.

yours, fighting entropy
-doodle