PFR 3 bet, flop check

[1800GAMBLER]

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (3.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (5.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.25 BB

completely standard?

[Stuck]

Looks weak to me. I think you need to bet your draws HU. Your opponent could conceivably bet the turn with almost anything, given the weakness you showed on the flop. I'd probably bet the flop, and the turn, and the river until he gave me some indication he'd got a hand. If you don't bet the flop I think you need to raise the turn when your Q hits giveing a weak king the opportunity to fold and buying yourself a free showdown on the river.

[surfdoc]

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If you don't bet the flop I think you need to raise the turn when your Q hits giveing a weak king the opportunity to fold and buying yourself a free showdown on the river.

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This thinking seems very far off to me. What kind of opponent will be aggressive enough to 3bet a "weak king" preflop and then fold top pair headsup?

As far as the hand itself I agree that 3 bet then flop check is a super scary move and usually means monster. I think you played it fine and although a river fold may be best I would be tempted to show down once my hand improved on the turn.

[Eric P]

Not having read any other response, why not bet the flop, then if he really flopped a monster and he goes for a turn c/r you get to save a half bet. Although you have to follow through on your plan to check once you hit that queen.

P.S. isn't there more than a 6-1 chance you are good on the river? I mean, i can think of about twenty hands that he would 3-bet pre-flop with that you can beat. AT sticks out in my head.

Very weak. Bet flop. Bet turn. Check river UI, bet any improvement.

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Very weak. Bet flop. Bet turn. Check river UI, bet any improvement.

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[Mempho]

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Very weak. Bet flop. Bet turn. Check river UI, bet any improvement.

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[1800GAMBLER]

eh you people realise that 3 betting preflop then checking the flop out of position is a very rare move and thus usually means one type of range?

raising the turn is probably the worst possible thing i can think of doing in this hand, well, other than folding when checked to.

[InfernoLL]

Bet the flop. If you think he's slowplaying a monster, check behind on the turn for the free card when he should try to check raise you. If he check raises the flop or bets out on the turn you've put in a few extra small bets with a decent draw.

[Turning Stone Pro]

i agree with this strategy. i hate the flop check.

TSP