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Old 12-06-2005, 01:25 AM
directscooter directscooter is offline
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Default Line Check AK NL200 Full Ring

Had my first (of many, I am sure) bad night at NL200. Some bad beats, some bad calls, and this one....
Villain (UTG+1) is 21/7, pretty normal all around. Most of my stats were from data mining and I have not seen much from him so far.
I am gonna post my thoughts in a reply so as not to taint others opinions.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP1 ($137.20)
MP2 ($113.45)
MP3 ($284.75)
CO ($260.60)
Button ($103.55)
SB ($198)
Hero ($209.25)
UTG ($199)
UTG+1 ($241.15)
UTG+2 ($195.90)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls $2, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, UTG+1 calls $8, MP2 calls $8.

Flop: ($31) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $25</font>, UTG+1 calls $25, MP2 folds.

Turn: ($81) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $35</font>, UTG+1 calls $35.

River: ($151) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $50</font>, UTG+1 calls $171.15 (All-In), Hero......?
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Old 12-06-2005, 01:28 AM
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Default Re: Line Check AK NL200 Full Ring

bet $70 on turn

as it was played I would call the river.
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Old 12-06-2005, 01:30 AM
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Default Re: Line Check AK NL200 Full Ring

I am assuming the preflop and flop are fine by everyone, I guess the only hand I am worrying about is 55.
One the turn, I am guessing I could have made it a little more, but I am still not giving correct odds to chase.
On the river, I thought that was a good blocking bet at the time, what should I really be afraid of here, KQ, doesn't that need to raise somewhere? When he pushes I figure I am probably behind but getting about 4-1 I thought it was worth a call and I had to see what it was.
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Old 12-06-2005, 01:33 AM
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Default Re: Line Check AK NL200 Full Ring

If you bet $70 do you fold to a reraise or call?
The $35 was a little low, but I guess I was thinking of keeping the pot smaller.
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Old 12-06-2005, 01:53 AM
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Default Re: Line Check AK NL200 Full Ring

bet more on the turn. fold to a decent raise.

you should just check the river.

as played u have to call, cause u played that hand so weak there is a good chance villian is putting a bluff on you.
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Old 12-06-2005, 01:58 AM
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Default Re: Line Check AK NL200 Full Ring

I would bet 60 on the turn, fold to a reraise obviously
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Old 12-06-2005, 02:09 AM
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Default Re: Line Check AK NL200 Full Ring

directscooter,
i would
a) bet 25 on flop
b) 65ish on turn (fold to raise)
c) check/call river (or just bet it, very opponent dependent)

as it is, i call river. If he hasn't raised to protect his whatever by now, then he will lose money later.

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crosse
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Old 12-06-2005, 02:19 AM
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Default Re: Line Check AK NL200 Full Ring

I gotta get some sleep, but it looks like the early consensus is betting more on the turn.. if he called 35 I am assuming he would have only called 65 as well and I would have lost my stack anyway, but I definitely like this line better.
A worse hand could have probably stole it from me by pushing the turn.
In this case the Villain had QQ, I would not have put him on that, I guess he didn't care about the diamond draw on the flop or was really scared that I had KK.
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Old 12-06-2005, 02:22 AM
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Default Re: Line Check AK NL200 Full Ring

yea tricky hand, i'm running into opponents who will check/call or call (if in position) sets all the way to the river and then pop me back out of no-where
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Old 12-06-2005, 02:27 AM
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Default Re: Line Check AK NL200 Full Ring

betting 65 is also much better than 35 because if he raises 35 you can still say "well ive shown weakness" and all that. if you bet 65 and he raises then you can get away.

his play sucks, the only way he can stack you when you have AK is if he plays it passively and doesnt raise you off your hand, which means he's not protecting his hand. hes forced to read you perfectly for a drawing dead TPTK, if you have anything else he is screwed. advantage you.
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