can i get away from 1010 preflop?

Mariogs379 · #1 08-06-2005, 06:46 PM

id seen people go all in with 44 and J9s so this is what happened:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) converter

MP1 (t1635)
MP2 (t3880)
CO (t1250)
Button (t2035)
SB (t1860)
Hero (t1465)
UTG (t1375)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
4 folds, Button calls t50, SB raises to t150, Hero raises to t350, Button folds, SB raises to t1860, Hero calls t1115 (All-In).

Flop: (t3375) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t3375) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t3375) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t3375

Results in white below: 
SB has Ah Ac (one pair, aces).
Hero has Td Tc (one pair, tens).
Outcome: SB wins t3375. 

Can I get away from pocket tens in this spot?
-Mario

Freudian · #2 08-06-2005, 06:50 PM

Losing a stack of 1500 in level 3 with TT is horrible. If you saw a flop and got a set I could understand it but this is plain ugly.

When someone reraises with 30xBB preflop, you have to let the tens go.

Mariogs379 · #3 08-06-2005, 06:52 PM

i def believe what you're saying, only thing is i had seen two people get all their chips in: 44 vs. J9 suited, i figured at worst he would have overcards...somethin like AQ...theres always the possibiltiy of an overpair but i didnt think given the texture of the table hed have something like that

phx · #4 08-06-2005, 06:55 PM

i would personally flat call and play from there. no need to risk your whole stack this early

ChipLeader · #5 08-06-2005, 06:59 PM

1.) You cant base your range of hands for opponent A if you saw opponents B and C go at it with weak hands. Even if A was the one with the 44 or J9, this hand has taken considerably different action than im guessing that hand did. This has been bet 3x the BB, raised, and hes pushing with J9? 44? noooo
2.) I wouldnt reraise with TT there most the time, unless i was sure the blinds would call the 150 but not a minbet to 300. The original bettor isnt folding to a small raise so your only goal with a raise is to get the pot isolated to you and him.
3.) You have a spot where you are 50/50 at best facing an all in with plenty of chips and no need for desperation... pick a better spot.
4.) EVen horrible players who push J9 get AA-JJ from time to time, you cant eliminate this range just because hes bad. It sounds more like you cant lay down a good hand like TT more than a practical read. Trust me, TT is much better on flops than trying to manuever preflop.

AJ_Rider · #6 08-06-2005, 07:40 PM

Reraising with TT pre is a mis-play in most circumstances. Calling all-in is an even worse mis-play, as you are a coin-flip with 0% fold equity unless you have a read. Do not let the play of worse players affect your decision making process unless you are making a judgement call in a hand against that very player.