What do you put these two players on?

Nikademus · #1 10-27-2005, 10:52 AM

SB - 14 hands - VPIP: 35.71
BB - 18 hands - VPIP: 5.56
I think I made it pretty clear during the hand that the hand was mine. What are your reads on the two players?

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets, BB raises, MP1 folds, Hero 3-bets, Button folds, SB calls, BB caps, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (10 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero raises, SB calls, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, SB calls, BB calls.

River: (22 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets $1.5 (All-In), BB folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 23.50 BB

milesdyson · #2 10-27-2005, 10:58 AM

flushes for both, maybe a straight flush for MP4 and the nut flush for UTG19

deception5 · #3 10-27-2005, 11:00 AM

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SB - 14 hands - VPIP: 35.71
BB - 18 hands - VPIP: 5.56
I think I made it pretty clear during the hand that the hand was mine. What are your reads on the two players?

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets, BB raises, MP1 folds, Hero 3-bets, Button folds, SB calls, BB caps, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (10 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero raises, SB calls, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, SB calls, BB calls.

River: (22 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets $1.5 (All-In), BB folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 23.50 BB

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BB: J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] seems to make the most sense. Way overplayed on the turn no matter what he had.
SB: Probably a crappy pocket pair like 77.

#4 10-27-2005, 11:02 AM

SB 44, BB DD.

crownjules · #5 10-27-2005, 11:09 AM

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BB: J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] seems to make the most sense. Way overplayed on the turn no matter what he had.
SB: Probably a crappy pocket pair like 77.

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So you think after all his betting, BB is laying down his straight to less than one bet?

BB: Something like AK [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]s or JJ/TT.
SB: A9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]s

@bsolute_luck · #6 10-27-2005, 11:10 AM

tough to really put someone on a hand only given VPIP and over such a short span of hands.

given BB's VPIP (even though he folded and we'll never know): JJ/TT. i just don't understand why he could be a on draw by wanting to iso SB's flop donkbet- 77 maybe though...

SB: i think i'm gonna have to guess A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or Qx[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img](A/K/J)- no preflop aggression was given so i guess SB would 3-bet QQ but that's a possibility too.

Nikademus · #7 10-27-2005, 11:11 AM

Any reason to put the BB on a diamond draw with the heavy betting? I could see the SB being on one (that's what I had him on during the hand), but not the BB.

deception5 · #8 10-27-2005, 11:12 AM

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BB: J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] seems to make the most sense. Way overplayed on the turn no matter what he had.
SB: Probably a crappy pocket pair like 77.

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So you think after all his betting, BB is laying down his straight to less than one bet?

BB: Something like AK/AQ [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]s
SB: A9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]s

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Ooh yeah, clearly not. Missed that the river would have made a straight. Well 2 poorly played diamonds then. I'll go with 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] since it still gives him a shot on the turn even though he still overplayed it.

deception5 · #9 10-27-2005, 11:14 AM

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Any reason to put the BB on a diamond draw with the heavy betting?

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Yes because any reasonable hand would not lay down for one bet on the river after capping the turn. So he must have had a strong draw to play it like that.

deception5 · #10 10-27-2005, 11:14 AM

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given BB's VPIP (even though he folded and we'll never know): JJ/TT

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It's only 18 hands.