Party 30/60 river bluff check raise.

[Jdanz]

raise preflop in EP with AQ threebet by mp LAG coldcalled by new player.
flop is 7d tc jc
i check, lag bets, unknown calls, i call

turn is 8d
check, bet, raise i think for a long time and cold call, lag calls

river is blank diamond, i look for vertain like i'm on a draw, though the more likely one is the club draw (i have a of clubs)

check, bet, i raise?

[mmcd]

You know anything about the cold-caller?

The only possible way this works is that river bettor has air and the other guy folds the winner for 2 more bets.

If the bettor has any kind of hand whatsoever, he's not folding.

This just isn't going to work out often enough to be +ev.

[Jdanz]

you can't see someone making a fancy fold vs someone screaming that they hit a draw?

edit: and obviously it puts a massive amount of pressure on the mp player

[DpR]

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you can't see someone making a fancy fold vs someone screaming that they hit a draw?

edit: and obviously it puts a massive amount of pressure on the mp player

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Uh, but isnt that lag the one most likely with air?

[Jdanz]

yeah, and i'm almost sure that the lag will fold here, and that the unknown is capable of making a bad laydown considering i'm screaming powerhouse. I'm sure there are people on this board who lay down AA there or even a weak two pair.

I don't think this is going to work often but i think 1:4 is very possible.

[imashyboi]

Short or Full Table?

Why did you call the turn raise? Even if you hit your AQ it might not even be good to win. I'm folding here 100% time. The flop has a pretty heavy draw, if not someone probably has a pair alrady. You can't really bluff here with just AQ.