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Old 07-26-2005, 06:45 PM
mattrado mattrado is offline
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Default Re: AJo in BB facing an MP1 raise and a SB call. Reraise, call, or fold?

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If you are dealt AJo in the BB in a normal name (not too tight or too loose), 7-handed, and MP1 raises while the SB cold calls (in a 1/3 blind structure), what is hero's action? Call, raise or fold? Assume both the raiser and caller are unknowns.

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The OP was creating a hypothetical from a specific hand that he/she had posted in the SS forum. Clearly, if the raise is from the button, and thus probably a steal bet, one would raise without thinking.

The question, I think, is what happens when the SB cold calls a raise from a MP player. At a Mid/High table, with no reads, this seems like a folding situation, or at best a call (5-1 PO). You can't be best with AJo, and unless you're confident in being able to lay down to a raised flop/turn when an A hits, I think you lose a big pot or win a small one.

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Old 07-26-2005, 09:39 PM
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Default Re: AJo in BB facing an MP1 raise and a SB call. Reraise, call, or fold?

kurosh:
I am sure you are not embarrassed by your behavior. You should be though.
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Old 07-26-2005, 11:35 PM
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Default Off topic note on small blind structure

If you think a 1/3 small blind is bad, when I used to play blue chip (3-6 & 4-8) a few years ago some of the Los Angeles casinos went to a no small blind at all structure. I do not know if they still do this or not at any of the casinos. But, then again your average "live" Los Angeles blue chip game is very loose passive or loose aggressive depending on how many Koreans are in the game (j/k... sort of), so the small blind structure does not affect the dynamics of the game very much.
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Old 07-27-2005, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: AJo in BB facing an MP1 raise and a SB call. Reraise, call, or fold?

I'm red now.
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Old 07-27-2005, 01:41 AM
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Default Re: Off topic note on small blind structure

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If you think a 1/3 small blind is bad, when I used to play blue chip (3-6 & 4-8) a few years ago some of the Los Angeles casinos went to a no small blind at all structure. I do not know if they still do this or not at any of the casinos. But, then again your average "live" Los Angeles blue chip game is very loose passive or loose aggressive depending on how many Koreans are in the game (j/k... sort of), so the small blind structure does not affect the dynamics of the game very much.

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In the Hustler 4/8 there is still no SB.
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Old 07-27-2005, 01:45 AM
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Default Re: AJo in BB facing an MP1 raise and a SB call. Reraise, call, or fol

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The OP was creating a hypothetical from a specific hand that he/she had posted in the SS forum.

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That's not the case at all actually. There was a big argument in SS surrounding the scenario where the raise came from the Button. The OP started insisting the raise didn't come from the Button even though in his post the raise clearly came from the Button. Once it was spelled out for him in extremely clear terms that the raise came from the Button, he never returned to the argument. Roughly around the time that this was pointed out, he came here to try to prove that his point of view was correct.
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Old 07-27-2005, 10:02 AM
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Default Re: AJo in BB facing an MP1 raise and a SB call. Reraise, call, or fold?

Call sometimes and raise sometimes. The shorter handed the game the more raising. Not folding unless the guy is a known super rock.

Orange
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Old 07-27-2005, 11:56 AM
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Default Re: AJo in BB facing an MP1 raise and a SB call. Reraise, call, or fold?

u were saying that u didnt have any clues about how these players are. therefore its han easy 3 bet. let me say,that a call is not good. fold or 3 bet. when the flop comes; bet and then u can see what the original raiser do.. if he doesnt hit or has really good draws he would fold since he doesnt know u either.
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